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Here is the bad news to the legions of Freepers screaming the sky is falling for Trump. It is not. The Hillary convention bump was totally bogus.

Here is the really, really bad news for Hillary. She cannot break out of the 40% mark. As an incumbent proxy she is in mega trouble.

By October it will appear as if Trump is running unopposed and the word landslide will be the word most used to describe his candidacy!

1 posted on 08/16/2016 12:51:52 PM PDT by GilGil
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He needs to win individual states. Time to start the ad buys


45 posted on 08/16/2016 1:17:05 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Remember the Court)
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Someone should ask the liberal MSM talking heads to explain the poll numbers as they are being reported as to why there are thousands of people turning out at Trump rallies and the hag having to hire enough people to make a crowd to show up at her rallies.


51 posted on 08/16/2016 1:20:27 PM PDT by drypowder
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By October it will appear as if Trump is running unopposed and the word landslide will be the word most used to describe his candidacy!

Probably true but I don't expect the MSM to fess up to it. Likely they will be pushing the "horse race" narrative to the bitter end.

I was in Fairfield, CT Saturday night for the Trump rally. Connecticut! Place was packed and the temperatures inside exceeded 110 degrees. People passing out all around me and being taken to ambulances.

This doesn't just happen. There's something happening here.

52 posted on 08/16/2016 1:21:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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You mean Zogby the muslim from Utica, NY? oh, that one and his poll.


54 posted on 08/16/2016 1:22:01 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Fatherless violence is the problem; think about the double meaning.)
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Go Trump Go!!!


59 posted on 08/16/2016 1:24:32 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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Trumps best chance to win is to push Hillarys negatives up higher than his.

He probably can’t beat her 49 - 47, but he can beat her 43 - 41.


62 posted on 08/16/2016 1:27:56 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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Fox News today showing Hillary with 10 pt. lead in NBC polls...big leads in Fla, Pa...all horsesh*t.


66 posted on 08/16/2016 1:33:50 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (President Trump: It's all over but the counting)
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Previous polls had Clinton and Trump in the 40s...sometimes with 47% and 48%. Now they are in the 30s. The pollsters are feeling the crticism.

The reality is that many people are undecided.
Some undecided are never Hillary but don’t know if they can go from Trump.
Some undecided are never Trump but don’t know if they can go for Hillary.
Some are truly undecided.

From now to the first day of voting in October the fight is for these undecided.

Yes, can you believe that the voting is only 7 weeks away?


72 posted on 08/16/2016 1:36:39 PM PDT by spintreebob
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gosh I thought she was ahead by 10


73 posted on 08/16/2016 1:37:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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Now just this afternoon, as I sit here in the unending heat with an attitude....Fox news announces seventy five bazillion polls that show Trump down by a million.

Down by eleven points, supposedly, in Florida.

And yet there are thousands attending all Trump rallys while Hillary has to photoshop her events.

No, hon, we are not “legions of Freepers screaming the sky is falling for Trump”.

But Hillary Clinton is a very sick woman. She is married to a pervert who she stood up for over and over. It was supposed to be hers in 2008 but Obama came along.

Now I think she and Clinton cronies are having people murdered.

We are also the people who voted, with kind hearts and good souls, for McCain, for Romney....once I even voted for Dole.

I hope Hillary loses but she’s got a steel spine for what she believes is rightfully hers. Which is the presidency of the U.S.

So finding one poll of the eleventy million we keep hearing out here in la la land proves nothing although I hope you are right.

But ridiculing a group of people for being wary from smites from the past accomplishes nothing.


77 posted on 08/16/2016 1:39:41 PM PDT by Fishtalk (https://aschooloffishblog.wordpress.com/)
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Guess people were finally tiring of “Boom!”


79 posted on 08/16/2016 1:39:47 PM PDT by TomServo
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Beware bogus Monmouth poll from Florida. Not worth seperate thread. R+5, Hillary +9. Ludicrous. This is the narrative I was talking about pollsters making up stuff.


81 posted on 08/16/2016 1:40:42 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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Better to have faked polls showing illary way up!

Then they will not feel the need to vote.


85 posted on 08/16/2016 1:47:12 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Hillary's nominatin = 60's Violence. "Constant conflict is actually often good politics"-Clinton)
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Gee, I was just listening to Hugh Hewitt and some “expert” this morning talking about how Trump basically can’t possibly come back from the yoooge hole he’s in.

How the hell are we supposed to take ANYBODY’S word for ANY of this?


89 posted on 08/16/2016 1:53:45 PM PDT by jagusafr
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Hope so, but not looking good so far.


91 posted on 08/16/2016 1:55:31 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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That's because the poll gives Gary Johnson and Jill Stein as alternative choices.

A lot of voters aren't familiar with those candidates or don't have them on their ballots, so they'll go with one of the major party candidates.

Most likely that widens Clinton's lead.

95 posted on 08/16/2016 2:05:19 PM PDT by x
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..Trump’s internal polls show something very different I’m guessing...


96 posted on 08/16/2016 2:06:24 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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Ok, but some realism: 1) Zogs shows no crosstabs, 2) Zogs was off in 2012 worse than almost any other pollster, showing Minoin with a 1 point lead (final was Zero 3.7).

Let’s do remember that at one time Zogs was THE most accurate pollster in DC (I think that was 1998 or 2000). Every cycle we have a different poll emerge as “the most accurate.” This cycle I thought it might be USC.

Remains to be seen.


100 posted on 08/16/2016 2:15:24 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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BAD news for the media, they are still clinging to the double digit lead polls for Hillary and how everyone is calling for Trump to quit.


103 posted on 08/16/2016 2:25:28 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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A different take on Trump

Mychal S. Massie is an ordained minister who spent 13 years in full-time Christian Ministry . Today he serves as founder and Chairman of the Racial Policy Center (RPC), a think tank he officially founded in September 2015. RPC advocates for a colorblind society.

Massie was founder and president of the non-profit “In His Name Ministries”. He is the former National Chairman of the conservative black think tank, Project 21-The National Leadership Network of Black Conservatives and a former member of its parent think tank, the National Center for Public Policy Research.

“Trump is not a Liberal or Conservative, he’s a Pragmatist” written by Mychal Massie

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics.

At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative, to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative. I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative; he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast leadership and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America . It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem, it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect.

Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China ’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work, you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through at Carl’s Hamburgers. I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump, but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: (1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; (2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a-vis donations; (3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and (4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush, John Kasich, and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts is that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now.

And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives (or politicians who never really solve a problem, because its better to still have an “issue to be solved” so re-elect me to solve it, which never happens) and those who have always played it safe (again, all politicians) not willing to risk failure, to try and achieve success.

Donald Trump has his total financial empire at risk in running for president. That says it all.

I believe he will be an absolute success for the USA!


104 posted on 08/16/2016 2:32:03 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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