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Evangelical Lutheran Church calls to stop U.S. aid to Israel
Israel National News ^ | 8/15/16 | Ben Ariel

Posted on 08/14/2016 8:54:59 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has approved a resolution calling on the American government to end all aid to Israel if Israel does not stop building in Judea and Samaria and "enable an independent Palestinian state", JTA reported Sunday.

Voting at its triennial assembly in New Orleans that ended Saturday, the church also sought a halt to all investment in companies that profit from Israel's alleged “occupation” and called on the president of the United States to recognize the “State of Palestine.”

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bds; christian; elca; fauxchristians; gaychurch; israel; lutheran; religiousleft
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To: Perseverando

First I’ve heard of it.


41 posted on 08/15/2016 9:05:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From their history page: http://thenalc.org/history/

The NALC is a fast-growing Christian church in the Lutheran tradition, uniting more than 141,000 Lutherans in more than 400 congregations across North America. The NALC embodies the theological center of Lutheranism in North America and stands firmly within the global Lutheran mainstream.


42 posted on 08/15/2016 9:20:54 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando

Another one for those seeking support to leave the ELCA

I belong to one of these LCMC affilliates and it has worked well for our growing congregation.

http://www.lcmc.net


43 posted on 08/15/2016 11:15:56 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Memphis Moe

The Bible is just a historical document to the ELCA.


44 posted on 08/15/2016 11:51:49 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: xone

But Lutherans preferred to be called Evangelicals.


45 posted on 08/15/2016 12:02:16 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: lightman

Most Holy Theotokos save us!!!!


46 posted on 08/15/2016 12:14:11 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: bjorn14

As they should, it is the purpose of the Church to evangelize. ELCA long since abandoned scriptural evangelism for liberal social pursuit, aren’t Lutheran because they have cast Bible and the Book of Concord aside, have ceased to be a place where God’s Word is preached both Law and Gospel so they should drop the ‘church’, and their America should be spelled with a ‘k’.


47 posted on 08/15/2016 1:29:48 PM PDT by xone
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To: bjorn14

Lutheranism was the original evangelical faith


48 posted on 08/15/2016 2:21:17 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: PCPOET7
I cant see myself going Missouri senate.

Well neither can I, since you don't even know what it is.

49 posted on 08/15/2016 5:03:08 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be our President.)
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To: right way right

I think it would be a good idea if those who left the ELCA did in such a fashion as to send a message. A Christian message.

Rather than just disappearing quietly or leaving in anger from the congregation, perhaps it would be a good idea to send a letter to the members explaining why. Sending a letter just to the pastor would probably have no effect as it is doubtful he would share it with the members. A well-reasoned explanation of one’s reasons for leaving might help others with similar beliefs, but who didn’t want to “go first”, to find the courage to also leave.

If anyone has some ideas on what to put into such a letter, I’d like to hear them and share some ideas back and forth.

This could be a way of educating others or at the very least putting them on notice that we are not sheep who will blindly follow the liberals who have taken over the system.


50 posted on 08/15/2016 5:08:03 PM PDT by generally
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To: right way right
I belong to one of these LCMC affilliates and it has worked well for our growing congregation.

http://www.lcmc.net

The national offices are about two miles from me at St. Michael's in Canton, MI. I belong to a WELS church in the area and our pastor has talked about St. Michael's in a very favorable way.

51 posted on 08/15/2016 6:46:53 PM PDT by stayathomemom ( Read Shadow Men, The Progressive Virus, and The Marxist Playbook by Dr. Anthony Napoleon)
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To: Perseverando
Perseverando @40: Anyone have any input on the NALC?

The NALC was formed from a breakaway group of congregations following the 2009 decision by the ELCA to ordain active homosexuals.

However, the NALC still ordains women, and with the exception of their opposition to ordaining active homosexuals, the NALC can be effectively considered as ELCA-lite.

Furthermore, a church body (or an individual) is defined as "Lutheran" if that body publicly holds an unconditional acceptance of the Book of Concord of 1580 as a true and correct exposition of the doctrine contained in Holy Scripture. Internationally, a number of Lutheran church bodies include that definition in their constitutional confessional statement of faith (though some are pretty lax in their practice of that confessional acceptance).

However, the NALC's confessional statement of faith only holds an unconditional acceptance to the three (Apostles', Nicene, and Athanasian) Creeds and the Augsburg Confession, but not to the other confessions within the Book of Concord, which NALC considers as only "valid interpretations of faith."

The LCMS leadership has been holding ecumenical talks with the NALC since it was founded, with the pipedream of convincing the NALC to reject the ordination of women and to accept a complete Book of Concord confession. During that time there has been not even an iota of a hint of a notion that the NALC is considering the possibility it might end their ordination of women as pastors.

52 posted on 08/15/2016 7:42:05 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Mr. M.J.B.

I left them in 2005 after reading a tyraid against Israel by our missioner in the Holly Land.

The ELCA is a collection of anti-Semetic, homo-loving liberals. A pox on them!


53 posted on 08/15/2016 7:53:45 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Okay, the Primaries are over and it is us against the DC Uni-Party!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I do. I am sorry if it insults you but there are a few things in the doctrine I disagree with...but at this point I could see my self attending but not becoming a member. attended a few the church a few times when I was going to the university.


54 posted on 08/15/2016 10:23:19 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: xone

When one is dealing with the Book of Revelation he needs to make allowance for those in the Reformed faith who discount a literal return for Christ, those who pretty much discount the book entirely — such as the liberals in Reformed theology.

“Some” is not meant to introduce “evidence” but a theory only. As you may know, there is a large contingent of dispensational believers who view the Seven Letters as a panorama of Church history.


55 posted on 08/15/2016 10:28:01 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: xone

No one minimizes the name Lutheran; in fact, it’s a great name describing a great saint. Most LUTHERans today simply retain the name in a spiritually dead environment.


56 posted on 08/15/2016 10:32:34 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Carl Vehse
However, the NALC still ordains women, and with the exception of their opposition to ordaining active homosexuals, the NALC can be effectively considered as ELCA-lite.

They left the ELCA, but instead of going to a non changing bible believing church like the LCMS, they just turned back the hands of time by 15 years. The NALC will be in thesame place as the ELCA in a decade.

57 posted on 08/15/2016 10:33:12 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: PCPOET7
I do. I am sorry if it insults you but there are a few things in the doctrine I disagree with.

Well then maybe you should try the Missouri "House of Representatives"...they probably have better rules.

58 posted on 08/16/2016 5:52:34 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs......same thing.)
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