[riri]

Conservatives are and have been for a very long time--reactionary only. They drive nothing. It used to be to know the conservative agenda in 20 years, look at the left today. That time frame gets shorter and shorter.

I think it's less than 5 years now.

[HiTech RedNeck]

That’s what you get when “conservative” means “conserving” vague principles instead of a theistic Judeo-Christian ethic. And it already had started to rot in the lead-up to Prohibition. Instead of taking God to an alcohol abuse problem, they decided to take all the alcohol away. Rubber rooms never work for society at large.