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HOLY WAR: GOVERNMENT TRIES TO CONTROL CHURCH SERMONS
WORLD NET DAILY ^ | 9 August 2016 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 08/09/2016 11:17:49 PM PDT by amorphous

An Iowa church just wants to be free to preach the gospel, but the state’s so-called nondiscrimination requirements could block the house of worship from doing just that.

Lawyers for the church are asking a federal court to prevent Iowa from censoring what the religious group can say about homosexuality, same-sex “marriage,” transgenderism and other related topics.

The case erupted when the state’s Civil Rights Commission first claimed the authority to control the content of sermons and then to define what’s religious.

At issue is the state’s nondiscrimination requirements that specify any “public accommodation” can be ordered not to say anything that might make a homosexual or a transgender feel “unwelcome,” such as even reading from the Bible a condemnation of such behavior.

Lawyers for the Alliance Defending Freedom, who are representing the church, have filed a reply in support of their motion for a preliminary injunction that would protect the church members’ constitutional rights while the case plays out.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianpersecution; churches; culturalmarxism; firstamedment; homosexualagenda; iowa; religion; religiousfreedom; sermons; treeofliberty; trumpwasright; tyranny
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I think most of us saw this coming.
1 posted on 08/09/2016 11:17:49 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

We are now approaching the level of tyranny Jefferson warned us about.


2 posted on 08/09/2016 11:22:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: amorphous

If these homo’s want to have this fight now, I say let’s bring it.


3 posted on 08/09/2016 11:26:27 PM PDT by Bullish (That establishment heads from both sides are exploding over Trump is the very best part.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Agree Jim. Those gentlemen would not have put up with a fourth of what we're putting up with now.
4 posted on 08/09/2016 11:28:15 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Donald Trump wants to repeal a Lyndon Johnson era law that prevents the discussion of political topics in houses of worship.


5 posted on 08/09/2016 11:29:46 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: amorphous

[[The case erupted when the state’s Civil Rights Commission first claimed the authority to control the content of sermons and then to define what’s religious. ]]

The black robe regiment needs to rise again


6 posted on 08/09/2016 11:32:56 PM PDT by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: SpaceBar

He wants to repeal the 501c3 requirement for churches (Johnson Amendment), IIRC. It’s the basis of what the state of Iowa is trying to do here, in this piece, and will be the basis for what can be preached in churches nationwide, if allowed to continue.


7 posted on 08/09/2016 11:33:03 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Lera

We’re far from that, IMO. I just read here on FR, only 30% of pastors discuss abortion in church. If a majority of church pastors will not even speak out against abortion, then I don’t expect much push-back against abnormal sexual behavior/marriage, or government decree.


8 posted on 08/09/2016 11:38:23 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Jim Robinson

Someone’s comeuppance is going to be very deserved and very great. They’re playing with fire and they keep on poking the cage. They’re about to get lit up. They’re going to get what’s due them.


9 posted on 08/09/2016 11:46:28 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: amorphous

This is very serious. The US freedom of speech is unique, no other country, in Europe or elsewhere has anything similar to this. Instead, they do ban certain opinions to be said. The Iowa law should be overturned.


10 posted on 08/09/2016 11:47:17 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: amorphous

>I think most of us saw this coming.

We did. This is the last election where out vote maters. Future elections will involve counting the dead and the number still armed and fighting.


11 posted on 08/09/2016 11:48:17 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: amorphous

yeah, that lesbian mayor in CA? or somewhere wanted to grab the priests’ notes last year, or something like that. It was shot down but next time it won’t be. Subpena. That’s what she wanted to do.

Anyway, if we’re really Prepared to Dance with the regime IF Trump loses, let me know how serious you all are.

I’ll start getting in shape.

Yeah i know, i should do it for myself, but i wont.

There may come a time when our words are put to the test.


12 posted on 08/09/2016 11:53:27 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: RedWulf

Hillary says Christians will just have to change their beliefs. If she’s elected and stacks the courts with homosexual activist judges, there will be hell to pay. Literally.


13 posted on 08/09/2016 11:53:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: amorphous

Absolutely-—the sodomites want the children so pederasty is next for their NWO agenda where Vice is Virtue and Males are Female (radical egalitarianism (Marxism)-—a return to their Luciferean Babylonian religion of Ba’al Rites.

Forcing pagan and satanic religion on the Christian Church is unconstitutional. The State is endorsing and forcing Satanism by promoting the vice of Sodomy in our “Just” Laws-—lol-—there never can be “vice” promoted in a Just Law-—it is an oxymoronic statement-—just like “homosexual marriage”—no such union possible....males sodomizing males is irrational, degrading, meaningless and evil—just domination (never “love”).


14 posted on 08/10/2016 12:07:11 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Jim Robinson; amorphous

The ROP is protected. Christians are persecuted.

Insanity.


15 posted on 08/10/2016 12:07:12 AM PDT by generally
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To: dp0622
I’ll start getting in shape.

Yeah i know, i should do it for myself, but i wont.

Not with cannoli the size of canoes lurking about you won't! :-P

Seriously though, just get your prayer life in order first, if you need to that is. I know I do! :)

16 posted on 08/10/2016 12:09:29 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Paisley Park is in my heart.)
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To: dp0622

It was the mayor of Houston, TX


17 posted on 08/10/2016 12:12:06 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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To: amorphous

The 30% figure is BECAUSE of the LBJ Rule and 501c3, which keeps many or most pastors in fear of IRS and other gubmint reprisals.

All this stuff is unconstitutional. And it is my understanding that the RC Church never submitted to it. 501c3 or anything else. Trump has stated that he’d revoke all of it. There are to be NO such burdens or restraints on churches or ministers.


18 posted on 08/10/2016 12:13:15 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

yeah you’re right. No chance lol!!

I’d be next to useless in the battle anyway.

But I’ll buy cannoli for everybody!!! :)

As for when I die, the polls are all over the place as to where I’ll go!


19 posted on 08/10/2016 12:24:56 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: amorphous

Vote Trump


20 posted on 08/10/2016 12:46:24 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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