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Who Got Us Into These Endless Wars?
Townhall.com ^ | August 9, 2016 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/09/2016 9:27:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Arrian

Madison’s lack of readiness gave us the War of 1812. Good thing he learned at the last minute.

And does your handle imply anything?


101 posted on 08/13/2016 11:43:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Arrian
PS. It’s the lack of readiness for war that results in having to face “continual warfare”, which Madison was concerned with in his 1795 observation and you chose to omit, thus distorting the context. If “(w)ar is the mortal enemy of liberty”, then it must be won as quickly as possible to preserve liberty rather than avoided in a cowardly manner, which again vindicates Washington (whose quote you dishonestly butcher here) and puts Madison at no disagreement, frankly.
102 posted on 08/13/2016 11:51:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Krosan

I didn’t read the whole 1977 article, but from the excerpt I took that Hitler’s success was enabled by his eventual opponents’ weakness. I don;t know if Buchannan is referring to German and Austrian leaders, or if he is including the likes of Chamberlain and other foreigners.


103 posted on 08/13/2016 12:03:48 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Krosan

While many comments about Adolph Schickelgruber are on the mark, he was hardly a genius. The core reason he ascended the pinnacle in Germany was the consequence of the Great War; a conflict that Germany could and should have won quickly and decisively; sparing the world virtually every horror of the most destructive century since the dawn of Man.
But fretful mediocrities had replaced the genius of Von Bismarck and Von Moltke, so it would not happen.
The German People could neither understand nor accept their defeat; which was the result of a grossly incompetent Foreign Office and General Staff.
Nor could the latter be openly blamed because of its link to and mutual dependence on the Hohenzollern Monarchy.
So a door was opened through which Hitler walked blaming the Jews, homosexuals, communists; among others.
The rest is history.


104 posted on 08/13/2016 12:48:06 PM PDT by Arrian ('Girls)
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To: Olog-hai

Hm.... on your pretentious horse again and right on cue.
I think Washington’s assertions are absurd given the time frame in which he made them. And I think Madison’s assertion is on the mark. But this is merely my opinion.
Of course noisy table thumpers like you never abide dissenting opinion, even on a discussion forum; since anything you say must be so because you day so, like the Cheshire Cat lecturing Alice. Suggest you do all a favor and ignore my posts and I’ll gladly reciprocate.
Why not find a house to haunt?


105 posted on 08/13/2016 1:22:37 PM PDT by Arrian ('Girls)
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To: Arrian

I think Washington’s assertions are absurd given the time frame in which he made them. And I think Madison’s assertion is on the mark …
You do not understand what either man said, regrettably, and even worse since you parsed the words of both men. And it is my fault for not double-checking Madison’s words right away to see the correct context.

Given the breakout of the War of 1812, Washington was correct in his admonition of vigilance, and Madison, by effectively prosecuting that war, insured that it would have an end (with our victory) and not be “endless” as he warned against, thus preventing the expansion of executive power and standing military that he also warned against. Either way, there should not have been any opportunity for the British to even go so far as to be able to set the White House ablaze, bottom line.

Of course noisy table thumpers like you never abide dissenting opinion …
With all due respect, that bespeaks a lack of confidence in one’s own opinion. That is also argumentum ad hominem and argumentum ad lapidem together. I merely think my POV is well-founded, and I abide no uninformed insult of any of the Founding Fathers nor parsing of their words—as I feel all patriots should.
106 posted on 08/13/2016 3:40:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Kaslin

If you look back far enough, Abraham and Sarah got impatient and caused this.
So, it was the Jooose!!


107 posted on 08/13/2016 3:51:25 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Indeed it’s always Bush, the Prince of Buffoons. There’s an old Arabic refrain that says “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” , a reality that Bush was oblivious to. Saddam Hussein was the mortal enemy of the Mullahs of Iran
w/whom he engaged in a decade long war.They were also our and Israel’s greatest threat.
More importantly, Saddam was the Iron fist that kept Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Fatah; among other fanatics, at bay. In effect, he was our policeman but doofus Bush knew better. And the results are plain to see; a Middle East now on fire!


108 posted on 08/13/2016 7:08:51 PM PDT by Arrian ('Girls)
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To: Iscool

On the mark.


109 posted on 08/13/2016 7:10:15 PM PDT by Arrian ('Girls)
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To: Kaslin

Who? Those who make money off of them.


110 posted on 08/13/2016 7:20:24 PM PDT by combat_boots (MSM: We lie to you sheep at the slaughterhouse to keep you calm during slaughter)
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To: Cboldt

What bothered me was Buchanan describing Hitler like a giddy schoolgirl would describe her favorite popstar and then suggesting that Hitler should have been left alone.


111 posted on 08/14/2016 2:34:52 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Magnatron

Can’t read it, so why post it?


112 posted on 08/14/2016 3:14:48 AM PDT by cynwoody
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