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Gary Johnson's Campaign To Make Hillary President
Frontpagemag.com ^ | August 9, 2016 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 08/09/2016 4:04:12 AM PDT by Biggirl

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To: Ray76

Rather than make your vote a net 0, why not make it a +1 for the candidate most likely to defeat the candidate you dislike?


21 posted on 08/09/2016 9:17:11 AM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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To: babble-on
Part of that is the Green candidate, but people are missing the fact that there are people who are saying they would vote for Clinton, who in a normal year would be Republican voters. They’ve ALREADY left Trump. That’s why he’s polling below 40% to start with.

Precisely my point. The people who would turn to Gary Johnson would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances. Voting Republican if somebody else was the party nominee is not an issue here. We are trying to deal with present reality. Present reality is that these people are not going to be voting for Trump and never were going to be voting for Trump.

Some Republicans have already voiced the idea that they are going to be voting Hitlerly. Johnson is not a factor in that. They would have done the same had Johnson not been an alternative.

And why any future increases that Johnson sees are likely to be further defections of people unwilling on principle to vote for Trump.

And here is our area of disagreement. Again, it appears to be a contradictory statement. If these people were unwilling on principle to vote for Trump --your conclusion-- is true, then it seems that the premise is flawed. Namely, these people were never defecting from Trump. They were never with Trump to begin with.

Keep in mind if he gets to 15% they have to include him in the debates.

If played properly, might end up being a blessing in disguise for Trump.

You have two basic types of Libertarian, and Libertarian-minded conservatives/Republicans: No, i'm not talking about Anarchists vs. Minarchists. That is a strictly Libertarian thing.

What i am speaking of are idealists vs incrementalists. There are some even in Republican circles who want change all at once. Others see the harm that would cause.

From what i have read of his position papers (i don't pay any attention to his rhetoric), Trump is in favour of rolling things back gradually. One does not for example, rebuild the US Military over night. One does not repeal "Obamacare" overnight. Congress, no matter how well intentioned simply cannot move that fast, and the replacement structures that Trump speaks of in his position papers have to be first put into place.

Trump plays that debate right, and Johnson-Weld look like bomb-throwing Anarchists. They're NOT incrementalists. The opposition ends up divided between Johnson and Hitlerly. It may be likely that even more Sanders supporters defect from Hitlerly --assuming she has any.

22 posted on 08/09/2016 3:51:27 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

No my point is that with each passing day more and more Republicans see Trump as unworthy of the value of a vote.


23 posted on 08/09/2016 6:15:09 PM PDT by babble-on
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24 posted on 08/10/2016 4:32:51 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop the Left and save the world.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
This inconsequential little turd will have no affect on the election.

Don't kid yourself...

The Libertarian ticket has two former two term Governors...

They are not some wacko outliers with zero name recognition...

Lots of former Sanders supporters will vote for them as a protest vote against Hillary...

Lots of rino republicans, who cannot stomach Trump will vote for them as an alternative...

I think you will find the MSM will start to push them and give them more coverage as the anti - Trump ticket...

They won't win, but certainly will have a important role come November..

25 posted on 08/10/2016 5:36:22 AM PDT by Popman (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Jack Hammer
I'd like to know how he got past the presidential drug test.
26 posted on 08/10/2016 8:31:41 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The 2nd amendment is to protect us from tyranny)
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To: Hyman Roth
He is just taking the disgruntled Bernie voters which is a plus for Trump.
Very plausible. Since Batsh!t Bernie endorsed Her Thighness what will the Sanderistas do? I think many will either vote third party (with the promise of free pot?), or sit out the election altogether in disgust. Maybe a small # of them would even go with Trump figuring their's nothing else to lose?
27 posted on 08/10/2016 10:23:47 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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