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Russia's New Conservative Allies in the US: The 'Alt-Right' Phenomenon
Russia-Insider ^ | 7/23/2016 | Vincent DeLarge

Posted on 07/23/2016 2:07:07 PM PDT by orchestra

For those that have been paying attention, the rise of the Alt-Right is as surprising, as it is entirely expected

What is the Alt-Right?

If you listen to the mainstream media, the Alt-Right is the birth of an American far right Frankenstein that was mid-wifed by Donald Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric in this election cycle.

But what we are seeing now is bigger than even Donald Trump. It is part of a massive paradigm shift that has been underway for some time now. For those that have been paying attention, it is clear that nationalist, patriotic movements are everywhere ascendant in the West.

The endless migration of millions of 3rd world men into Europe, the callousness of the Elite class to the concern its Natives, and the fever-pitched identity politics of the Regressive Left have brought us to a crossroads… It should come as little surprise to nobody that the native populations of the West have started asking some hard questions about their own identity.

(Excerpt) Read more at russia-insider.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: altright
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To: Kudsman
Terrorists are terrorists. I will never accept the argument that there are good terrorists.

Thanks, anyway, I'll stick with the USA.

21 posted on 07/23/2016 3:27:12 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: A Navy Vet
They can't even produce a decent loaf of bread.

Reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago, a US developer, or somebody, was demonstrating some kind of gizmo to some Russians and remarked, "It's the best thing since sliced bread." The Russians exclaim in unison ( and large cartoon print,) "SLICED BREAD ?!?!?!?!"

22 posted on 07/23/2016 3:35:01 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Tau Food

There is absolutely no evidence that Russia shot down a commercial airliner and US intelligence admitted that within days of the MH 17 incident, but the US DID shoot down commercial airliner Iran Air 655 in 1988.

As to Putin, the Russian GDP has grown two and a half times since he took office. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia#/media/File:Russian_economy_since_fall_of_Soviet_Union.PNG

In addition:

Putin has (1) restricted abortion to 12 weeks, banned abortion advertising and instituted a robust maternity program; (2) denounced multiculturalism and all its works; (3) prohibited the distribution of homosexual propaganda to minors; jailed the vile “Pussy Riot” for desecrating the Moscow Cathedral; (4) rebuilt churches throughout Russia and placed the Russian Orthodox Church at the center of the nation’s cultural life; (5) tightened immigration laws and opposed the West’s open borders philosophy; (6) stood up for state sovereignty against globalism; (7) denounced excessive welfare spending in the West for drawing in immigrants and as dangerous to the “moral foundation of society” and generating “a dependency mentality,”; (8) required religious or moral education in the public schools; (9) instituted a flat income tax of 13%; (12) abolished the estate tax; (13) cut the corporate tax to 20%, half of what it is in the US; (14) paid the Russian state debt down so it is only 18% of GDP (v. 101% in the US): (15) accumulated a foreign exchange reserves of half a trillion dollars; (16) condemned Western money printing as “hooliganism”; (17) denounced excessive state intervention in the economy; (18) cut the Russian state budget by 10% each of the last two years.

Nor, if you study the individual cases, will you find any convincing evidence Putin has had anyone killed. And I have studied them.

As to “kleptocracy,” the former Forbes bureau chief in Moscow, Paul Klebnikov, later probably murdered by Berezonvsky, said:

“What happened is that most of the so-called oligarchs were very bad managers. As soon as President Putin came in, and after the bankruptcy of the Russian state, the devaluation of the ruble and the debt default of 1998, there was a change of tone in the Russian government and a groundswell of outrage in the Russian population. There was an understanding among the oligarchs that they would have to change their tactics. They couldn’t just simply strip the assets and strip the wealth from these companies. They had done their looting, and now if they wanted to hang onto their companies, they had to suddenly act like real managers and build the companies up.

This is something that Putin made very clear when he came to power. This was unexpected. People like Berezovsky expected him to be a wishy-washy character.
But an informal deal was struck. Putin said he wouldn’t look into the past and the criminal way in which the oligarchs acquired the companies, but from now on, they were going to pay taxes and stop sucking all the money out of these companies and parking it in their personal bank accounts abroad. They were going to have to take the profits from the companies and reinvest them, or at least reinvest them into the Russian economy. And those financiers that agreed to this deal started acting differently and are now acting in a more civilized manner. There were a few that did not want to make the transition and took whatever wealth they could carry and are now living abroad.”
http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2002/02jan-feb/jan-feb02interviewklebniko.html

And here is what Christopher Caldwell, senior editor of the neocon Weekly Standard, no friend of Putin, has written.

“These “state-appointed billionaires,” as Putin came to call them, were a conduit for looting Russia, and they were too entrenched to root out. But Putin was able to avoid an outright oligarchic takeover of the state, of the sort that happened in neighboring Ukraine. It was for reasons good and bad that Yukos oil magnate Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who served ten years in prison before being released on the eve of Russia’s 2014 Winter Olympics, became the center of Putin’s crackdown. Khodorkovsky’s was among the most obscene of the privatizations: Myers calculates that Khodorkovsky and fellow investors paid $150 million in the 1990s for the company’s main production unit, which was valued at about $20 billion by 2004.

Khodorkovsky began leveling accusations of corruption at the very Russian state from which he had appropriated one of the world’s great fortunes. Putin saw his own task as restoring to the country what had been stolen from it. In his view, here was Khodorkovsky preening before his powerful American friends, hoping they might help him consolidate his theft.” http://www.claremont.org/crb/article/the-prince/


23 posted on 07/23/2016 3:37:01 PM PDT by marvel5
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To: Tau Food

At least he’s not a cuck like you.


24 posted on 07/23/2016 3:40:39 PM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: orchestra

for later


25 posted on 07/23/2016 3:50:54 PM PDT by Huck (This is my opinion. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: A Navy Vet

You can be a Nationalist, I’m a full bore Jingoist.


26 posted on 07/23/2016 3:57:38 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: marvel5

Thank you for that very informative post.

I also like that that Putin respects Patriarch Kirill and defends Christians (at least that’s what he says in public) unlike Obama who hates Christians.


27 posted on 07/23/2016 4:02:13 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Tau Food

Hillary?


28 posted on 07/23/2016 4:02:20 PM PDT by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: marvel5
You don't have to go to all that trouble for me. You need only say that you prefer Russia to the USA.

If you''re Russian, then that's okay. If you're an American, then you're an embarrassment. But, we've always had a certain number of Americans who hate this country.

Here's a chart for Russian GDP:

Putin is an incompetent loser.

29 posted on 07/23/2016 4:19:36 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Twinkie
Twinkie?

I see. ;-)

30 posted on 07/23/2016 4:21:13 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food

I prefer Russian conservative social, cultural, and economic policies to American cultural Marxist and Keynesian economic policies, yes.

My GDP chart shows the growth of GDP from the time Putin first became President in 2000; yours basically reflects the fall-off of recent years occasioned by Western sanctions and falling oil prices over which Putin had no control.


31 posted on 07/23/2016 4:29:23 PM PDT by marvel5
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To: Tau Food

Well, I guess your preferred guy was drunken Yeltsin.
Sure, he was bound to give Russia away to the west...
Your man, eh?


32 posted on 07/23/2016 4:31:30 PM PDT by WhatWhyWhom
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To: marvel5
Name an incompetent who doesn't have a list of excuses for his failures. What incompetent things did he do to draw sanctions? Maybe global terrorism was a poor choice?

Facts are facts and the fact is that Putin is an incompetent.

33 posted on 07/23/2016 4:37:16 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Mjreagan

Yeah, Putin has done more to protect America than the last 4 Presidents combined. The globalists are a greater threat to our liberty than the followers of the paedophile profit could ever hope to be.


34 posted on 07/23/2016 4:41:04 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: WhatWhyWhom; Twinkie
I didn't say anything about Yeltsin. I just pointed out that Putin is an incompetent and I showed you a chart that demonstrates that Putin is an incompetent.

Your answer is Yeltsin and "Twinkie's" answer is Hillary. I don't know why you and "Twinkie" want to change the subject. Again, the facts demonstrate that Putin is an incompetent.

35 posted on 07/23/2016 4:41:37 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Kudsman
The underlying truth of it all. That the Marxists have had free reign to rebrand themselves so many times is the fault of a complicit media not connecting the dots for the average joe news consumer. A progressive is a Marxist. A liberal is a Marxist. A Democrat is now a Marxist. A Green is a Marxist. And the infiltration is so complete that many Republicans are Marxists. Heck we used to fight communists, now we seriously entertain them as presidential candidates (Bernie). Reds and Muslims are the scourge threatening Liberty and Freedom around the world. Same as it ever was.

Finally, somebody tells it like it is.

36 posted on 07/23/2016 4:45:25 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Tau Food

Putin did nothing to draw sanctions. The US fostered the overthrow of the legitimate, democratically elected government in Kiev and Putin enabled the largely Russian population of Crimea to re-unite with Russia. And he enabled the people of Donbass to defend themselves against the Ukro-Nazi regime that waged war against its own people (a monstrous crime according to the US when it was Gaddafi and Saddam who were so accused).

It’s a little rich accusing Russian of “global terrorism” after the illegal bombing of Serbia, the illegal invasion of Iraq, the illegal attack against Libya, and the continuing illegal activities of the US in Syria. all of which have done nothing but empower Muslim terrorists.

I would be curious to know how many of the eighteen key social and economic policies of Putin I listed that you disagree with.


37 posted on 07/23/2016 4:51:25 PM PDT by marvel5
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To: marvel5
Do you really think that I would waste my time arguing with you about what is patently obvious? We know who shot down that airliner full of innocent men, women and children. We know where they got the missiles. We know who was backing the thugs that then looted the crash site. And, we know why Putin's Russian enemies so often wind up shot or poisoned.

You just keep looking at the chart in post 29. That's all anyone needs to see in order to know that Putin is an incompetent. Here is a chart for United States GDP annual growth rates for the same period:

So, while the USA has been growing each year, Russia (under Putin) has been cratering. Again, I'm not saying anything controversial. I'm just pointing out that Putin is incompetent. Under stronger leadership, Russia would probably do much better.

38 posted on 07/23/2016 5:08:59 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
And here is a shot of US GDP not manipulated by the guys that work for the government--notice the trend over a greater time span? All the US statistics are suspect.

The US economy also previously had a broader base versus Russia which relies on oil exports as the centerpiece.


39 posted on 07/23/2016 5:15:17 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Tau Food

We don’t “know” any such thing about MH 17. Here is a detailed fact-based update for you. https://consortiumnews.com/2016/07/17/mh-17-two-years-of-anti-russian-propaganda/

The Russian chart is meaningless because it does not encompass the entire period of Putin’s presidency nor acknowledge the impact of sanctions and falling oil prices, which of course don’t have an effect upon the US. You are the first Freeper I have seen praise the wonderful Obama economy. I presume you find Obama competent then.

But which of Putin’s actual economic policies do you find incompetent? instituting the 13 flat tax? abolishing the estate tax? halving the corporate tax rate? cutting the Russian debt to GDP ratio to 18$ (v. 101% for US)? building up foreign currency reserves of half a trillion dollars? eschewing money printing? cutting the Russian state budget by 10% each of the last two years? These are all sound conservative economic policies and the very reverse of what the US follows.

Obviously, about 85% of the Russian people do not think he is incompetent (based on both independent polling in Russia and Western polling conducted there).


40 posted on 07/23/2016 5:29:43 PM PDT by marvel5
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