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US Navy's newest $12.9bn supercarrier doesn't work
DAILYMAIL.COM ^ | July 21, 2016 | LIAM QUINN

Posted on 07/22/2016 12:29:41 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

The most expensive warship ever built has been delayed from hitting the front line because it is reportedly not ready for battle.

The $12.9 billion USS Gerald R. Ford Navy supercarrier - the first of three in its class with a total cost of $43 billion - could potentially struggle with planes landing and taking off, moving military weapons and being able to successfully defend itself, a memo obtained by Bloomberg News reads.

The memo allegedly states 'poor or unknown reliability issues' were identified in a letter dated June 28.

'These four systems affect major areas of flight operations,' Defense Department Director of Operational Test and Evaluation Michael Gilmore wrote to Pentagon and Navy weapons buyers, according to Bloomberg News.

'Unless these issues are resolved, which would likely require redesigning, they will significantly limit the CVN-78’s ability to conduct combat operations.

'Based on current reliability estimates, the CVN-78 is unlikely to conduct high-intensity flight operations at the outset of a war.'

It comes after Senator John McCain slammed an announcement earlier this month that stated the ship will not be rolled out until at least November this year - more than two years after its original intended date of September 2014.

The Navy’s announcement of another two-month delay in the delivery of CVN-78 further demonstrates that key systems still have not demonstrated expected performance,' McCain said in a statement.

'The advanced arresting gear (AAG) cannot recover airplanes. Advanced weapons elevators cannot lift munitions. The dual-band radar cannot integrate two radar bands. Even if everything goes according to the Navy’s plan, CVN-78 will be delivered with multiple systems unproven.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3701727/Navy-s-12-9-billion-USS-Gerald-R-Ford-delayed-dogged-reliability-issues.html#ixzz4F7X0eWdF Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhodod; cvn78; miltech; navair; navy; shipbuilding; usn; usnavy; ussgeraldford; ussgeraldrford
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To: vsEPAwarrior

A sub comes to comm depth twice a day to send/receive message traffic, hardly realtime targeting information.


61 posted on 07/22/2016 10:31:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: castlegreyskull

2 mk48’s couldn’t sink a 4000 ton frigate with no crew doing damage control. So multiply it for a 90,000+ ton carrier. 20+ hits?


62 posted on 07/22/2016 10:33:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: freedumb2003

Sounds like McStain’s navy career in a nutshell


65 posted on 07/22/2016 10:39:02 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: vsEPAwarrior
I’ve never been in the Navy, but how about dozens of a new class of submarine with tons of surface to air missiles and/or drones?

The sub has to have some way to target the missiles, or even know that there are aircraft around in the first place. To do that it would have to stick up a mast and use radar, which also tells everyone around where the sub is. A submarine's best defense, and a big part of its offense, is based on stealth. Anything that diminishes that increases the danger to the sub.

66 posted on 07/22/2016 10:40:08 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: vsEPAwarrior

Subs have to be a depth where the antenna can protrude from the water, 90 feet perhaps. That is why subs do not stay at comm depth for more than 1/2 hour and they are vulnerable at that depth. You can actually see a sub at that depth during the day. Subs have no anti air weapons. Anti air warfare is not their mission.


67 posted on 07/22/2016 10:42:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Those airline style toilets they put on that ship aren’t helping matters either.

http://pilotonline.com/news/military/toilet-troubles-add-to-sailors-deployment-stress-on-carrier/article_a57f5378-2007-5193-aa66-acdee1619173.html


68 posted on 07/22/2016 10:43:20 AM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: vsEPAwarrior

Your not going to sink a carrier with a tomahawk. You can damage it but not sink it. The perception that a modern carrier is this frail thing that can be easily sunk needs top be dispelled. A carrier is extremely tough.


69 posted on 07/22/2016 10:44:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: vsEPAwarrior
This beauty had some troubles at first too - but she’s basically the best hunter-killer in the world at this point.

When they aren't surfacing under merchantmen.

UK nuclear submarine collides with merchant vessel off Gibraltar

71 posted on 07/22/2016 10:45:42 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: central_va

I think you can do it in about 4 or 5.


72 posted on 07/22/2016 10:46:42 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: vsEPAwarrior
I would think a sub(s) might also use harpoons or tomahawks on a carrier.

It'd use a Harpoon. Tomahawks are land attack missiles. And a sub could target the Harpoon using it's sonar.

73 posted on 07/22/2016 10:49:10 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: vsEPAwarrior

The CVBG has anti air thing covered in spades. No help needed. The best help a sub can render is to track and maintain contact with enemy attack subs and either sink it or constantly broadcast its position. That is a crucial mission of the attack sub fleet.


74 posted on 07/22/2016 10:49:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: castlegreyskull

Sink or disable?


75 posted on 07/22/2016 10:50:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

you can disable it with one with blasting off the rudder and props. I think the carrier would be in serious danger if it was hit with 5. BTW: China has carrier killers, I am not sure if they are worth a shit.


78 posted on 07/22/2016 11:02:23 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull

The surface Navy does some really stupid crap. Primary units DDG’s, Cruisers and CVN’s all have noise abatement gear which works really well. Then once every 4 days a fleet oiler comes around that is louder than all get put and gives away the store. I hope that situation has improved since I was in the fleet.


79 posted on 07/22/2016 11:08:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dilbert56

Georgia Tech initially refused to play the University of Michigan in a scheduled 1934 football game because Michigan had an outstanding receiver, Willis Ward, who was black. A compromise was reached in which Michigan withheld Ward from playing in the game and Georgia Tech withheld one of its star players. Michigan didn’t display much courage by agreeing to this compromise.


80 posted on 07/22/2016 11:49:24 AM PDT by riverdawg
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