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US Navy's newest $12.9bn supercarrier doesn't work
DAILYMAIL.COM ^ | July 21, 2016 | LIAM QUINN

Posted on 07/22/2016 12:29:41 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

The most expensive warship ever built has been delayed from hitting the front line because it is reportedly not ready for battle.

The $12.9 billion USS Gerald R. Ford Navy supercarrier - the first of three in its class with a total cost of $43 billion - could potentially struggle with planes landing and taking off, moving military weapons and being able to successfully defend itself, a memo obtained by Bloomberg News reads.

The memo allegedly states 'poor or unknown reliability issues' were identified in a letter dated June 28.

'These four systems affect major areas of flight operations,' Defense Department Director of Operational Test and Evaluation Michael Gilmore wrote to Pentagon and Navy weapons buyers, according to Bloomberg News.

'Unless these issues are resolved, which would likely require redesigning, they will significantly limit the CVN-78’s ability to conduct combat operations.

'Based on current reliability estimates, the CVN-78 is unlikely to conduct high-intensity flight operations at the outset of a war.'

It comes after Senator John McCain slammed an announcement earlier this month that stated the ship will not be rolled out until at least November this year - more than two years after its original intended date of September 2014.

The Navy’s announcement of another two-month delay in the delivery of CVN-78 further demonstrates that key systems still have not demonstrated expected performance,' McCain said in a statement.

'The advanced arresting gear (AAG) cannot recover airplanes. Advanced weapons elevators cannot lift munitions. The dual-band radar cannot integrate two radar bands. Even if everything goes according to the Navy’s plan, CVN-78 will be delivered with multiple systems unproven.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3701727/Navy-s-12-9-billion-USS-Gerald-R-Ford-delayed-dogged-reliability-issues.html#ixzz4F7X0eWdF Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhodod; cvn78; miltech; navair; navy; shipbuilding; usn; usnavy; ussgeraldford; ussgeraldrford
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To: central_va

You like to insult because on the internet you are superman. If did this in real life, you would have no teeth life.

I am not alone in this opinion. Why don’t you have a chat with Marine Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper and his experience with the Millennium Challenge War Games in 2002.


41 posted on 07/22/2016 6:20:34 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: central_va

So... they’re only glitches?

All this stuff can (and will) be fixed?


42 posted on 07/22/2016 6:22:13 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

Remember Hubble telescope? They fixed it and worked better than designed.


43 posted on 07/22/2016 6:24:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: castlegreyskull
Like I said when arm chair admirals come up with a better way to maintain air superiority in the middle of the ocean I will listen to Popeye loser crazy sophistry.

Dangeous crazy btalk of killing AC carrier program needs ridicule.

44 posted on 07/22/2016 6:28:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
A younger Gerald Ford, jumper on the left:

IIRC, His college football team refused to play against a segregated school.

45 posted on 07/22/2016 6:32:05 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: central_va

75 years ago, you probably said the same bullcrap about battleships. The carriers will be sunk quickly. I doubt you looked up the Millenium challenge. The General sank the entire battle fleet in a day.


46 posted on 07/22/2016 6:33:04 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull
Ok HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN AIR SUPERIORITY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN? Answer that and I will listen to your lunacy.

Have yo ever been in the Navy? Or even been at sea? LOL.

47 posted on 07/22/2016 6:36:30 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I was an elisted man on the USS ENTERPRISE and I was a submarine officer for 5 years. I have been to sea many times. There was a time that my submarine could have sank a carrier 10 times in a day.

Let me turn your question around on you. “Ok HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN AIR SUPERIORITY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN?” How do you maintain air superiority in the middle of the ocean (discussion point later) when all of your carriers are sunk?

Tell me of a Naval battle that happened in the middle of the ocean. Your ignorance of naval history is glowing.


48 posted on 07/22/2016 6:47:16 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: SubMareener
Looks as if the Navy wants to beat the Bradley Fighting Vehicle as the most screwed up procurement or all time.

Whew...thought you were going to mention the M47 DIVADS


49 posted on 07/22/2016 7:51:51 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Vinnie

Not rail-gun which is DC...more like a synchronous AC motor with a rapidly ramped AC drive frequency.


50 posted on 07/22/2016 9:07:40 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: castlegreyskull
There was a time that my submarine could have sank a carrier 10 times in a day.

Peacetime exercises where subs start out in perfect position.....

If our criteria is that a weapons system is no good or obsolete if in any way vulnerable to enemy counter weapons then there are no weapon systems that are useful and non obsolete.

51 posted on 07/22/2016 9:40:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dilbert56
"IIRC His college football team refused to play against a segregated school."

You recall incorrectly.

52 posted on 07/22/2016 9:45:38 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: central_va

“Peacetime exercises where subs start out in perfect position.....”

Yeah buddy, carrier are very evasive and submarines have no ability to track them. Carriers are very stealthy and their anti-submarine capabilities are unmatched.

Were you in the Navy? Doubt it.


55 posted on 07/22/2016 10:00:06 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: freedumb2003

Well, Mrs. Lincoln, other than that, how was the play? :=)


56 posted on 07/22/2016 10:04:42 AM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: castlegreyskull
I was the ASW officer on a frigate. I hunted real world soviet subs successfully many times. US subs are harder to find for sure. But peacetime is peace time.

Bubbleheads think the surface Navy is going to act the same in peacetime as war time. In a wartime a CVBG is not going to go into a high probability area-ever. It will be the primary job of the sub fleet to track and contain the enemy sub fleet.

Back to the laughable peacetime sub exercises. The attack sub stars out within 10 miles of the CVBG Well they have already won before the exercises starts. Put that sub 200 miles away and let the game start. See the difference then. Additionally a modern carrier is almost impossible to actually sink. They are durable and repairable. Designed that way.

Recently the Navy had target practice on a FFG 7 class and it floated for 12 hours after taking 2 mk48 hits. A carrier would have been taken out of action for sure and would have needed dry dock but it would have been repaired easily.

57 posted on 07/22/2016 10:13:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: vsEPAwarrior

A sub has limited ability to track and target aircraft. To do that the sub would have to be near the surface and that would eliminate stealth which is there primary weapon. Aircraft have nothing to fear from a sub. Subs are not anti air platforms. None are.


58 posted on 07/22/2016 10:19:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I saw that video of the frigate. If it had fuel, it probably would have caught on fire.

I pretty certain a submarine can sink a carrier. It would take a few torpedoes. At a minimum, it would be able to disable it.

Submarines can sit at choke points and wait. In places such as the gate of tears or the straight of hormuz.

One thing I would say, is that a couple of times we were found by a platform a lot less advance than a US warship, and they were not even looking for us.


60 posted on 07/22/2016 10:23:29 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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