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DOW 50,000!
The Soverign Investor ^ | 7-21-2016 | J.L. Yastine

Posted on 07/21/2016 5:08:55 PM PDT by blam

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To: publius911
Roosevelt's Executive Order 6102 signed on April 5, 1933... and The United States Gold Reserve Act, signed into law by President Franklin D. Roosevelt on 30 January 1934.

And upheld by the Supreme Court.

Imagine what Hillary and her packed Supreme Court could do.

41 posted on 07/21/2016 6:47:00 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: publius911

No. It’ was the result of bad banking practices. Leverage, low tier capital ratio requirements and the creation of money through the emission of credit.

It was not helped by the central banks with quantitative easing and low yields but remember that was just a bandaid to stop the whole “tanks in the streets” scenario.

I remember when the subprime collapse went down and thought to myself that inflation/hyperinflation was the only way out of the mess. I was partly correct and considered buying PMs. The problem is that other than industrial and commercial uses, it’s every bit as speculative as equities. I missed the boat at 925 on gold and had a friend try to talk me back into it at 1600. I told him I thought it was overvalued at 925. Why would I buy in at 1600?

The fed has chosen to inflate by controlling the ex nihlo currency it creates. If it winds up in the hands of the average man prices for everything will soar. But if you only take care of the people that will invest it to,prop up markets, it gives the rosy illusion that things are well because big money only wants to keep the party going.

Dow 50k? Not as crazy as,I once believed.


42 posted on 07/21/2016 6:58:12 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: blam

>>Happy Days Are Here Again.<<

Right?

Most are absolutely oblivious of the fact that another world war is right around the corner. Not simply the war on Islamic terror.

Wonder how the markets will react?


43 posted on 07/21/2016 7:03:39 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SVTCobra03
The market will crash and fiat money will be worthless and you will wish you had some gold.

"Those who ignore the mistakes of History, are condemned to to repeat them..."

Good luck to you.

44 posted on 07/21/2016 7:04:41 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: vette6387
I really do hope Trump reinstitutes Glass-Stegall.

Which part of it would be helpful?

45 posted on 07/21/2016 7:06:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: blam

All the FED has to do is print another $10 trillion in QE and bond-buying, of course, pass it through Wall Street member banks, for their cut, and it should continue to blow bubbles in stocks, real estate and bonds.

The party never has to end.


46 posted on 07/21/2016 7:23:28 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: blam

The average P/E ratio for the S&P 500 is in the high teens, low twenties right now. I’m not sure the fundamentals support that much growth in price without a corresponding increase in earnings.


47 posted on 07/21/2016 7:25:50 PM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Jimmy Valentine

The libs have been inflating currency since 1993 and the conservatives have done nothing to stop it so instead of our prosperity we had, we are losing ground to the price of a loaf of bread as our wages are going up slower than our bills. This is what the government calls prosperity. I call it pandering and destroying an economy. The debt is a perfect example. And that’s just what we owe ourselves.

red


48 posted on 07/21/2016 8:06:10 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: blam

Yes, when an election is near and a Democrat has been in office, the libmedia always paints a sunny picture of our foundering, moribund economy.


49 posted on 07/21/2016 8:15:10 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: blam

Meth is a helluva drug.


50 posted on 07/21/2016 8:47:02 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

A bubble is always biggest just before it pops.


51 posted on 07/21/2016 8:48:07 PM PDT by wolfman
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Which part of it would be helpful?”

Get the general banking separated once again from the investment banks and brokerage houses. A lot of the abuses we’ve seen have their roots in this unholy alliance. It’s long past time when the stock market isn’t run by the banksters, and the average investor has some reasonable assurances that he won’t be taken for a ride.


52 posted on 07/21/2016 9:57:50 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Jimmy Valentine

More reason to own stocks and other assets. I don’t understand why people worry about “debased currencies”. The solution is simple - don’t own currencies. Currencies are simply one type of assets, simply diversify and sleep at night.


53 posted on 07/21/2016 10:02:09 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: blam
Reminds me of a book in the late 1990s I believe with the title Dow 36000. Guess what we are still waiting. The nasdaq has only recently recovered to it's levels from 2000 (that's 16 years ago). The dow will hit 50,000 based on historical trends probably somewhere around 2033. Give or take.

To do it in 2-3 years would be back to back gains of over 50%. I don't see that happening. You would need an economy that grew at a 4 - 5% range or as others have pointed out a hyperinflationary period that killed the value of the dollar. Even if Trump becomes President it will take a year for his tax policies to work their way into economy. So that's one year gone (2017) out of the 2 they are predicting it will take. Even with 2 good years at 15% stock market increases you only make it to 24k and some change.

54 posted on 07/22/2016 2:46:07 AM PDT by stig
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To: vette6387

You are absolutely correct sir!


55 posted on 07/22/2016 2:54:55 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: vette6387
Get the general banking separated once again from the investment banks and brokerage houses.

I can't think of any banks that got in trouble because of their brokerage division, can you?

A lot of the abuses we’ve seen have their roots in this unholy alliance.

Any specifics?

56 posted on 07/22/2016 6:07:43 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So, I take it you made out well in 2007? I didn’t, we lost 30% of our retirement funds, and it was because of the existing financal institutions manipulations of the marketplace to steal from average folks like us. And in addition to Glass-Stegal, we should take measures to rein in Fannie and Freddie and government policies that allowed ( no mandated) that they give mortgages to people whom they knew would not be able to repay them. They were making loans, skimmming off fees, they walking away with those monies in their pockets leaving the taxpayers to foot the resulting bill. If I had my way, Goldman Sachs would be liquidated, along with everyone who works there having their bank accounts expropriated.


57 posted on 07/22/2016 8:22:32 AM PDT by vette6387
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So, I take it you made out well in 2007?

Nope. Lost a bunch.

we should take measures to rein in Fannie and Freddie and government policies that allowed ( no mandated) that they give mortgages to people whom they knew would not be able to repay them.

Completely agree, government involvement in the housing mortgage market causes distortions.

Back to my original point, I can't think of any bank that got in trouble because of stuff that would have been disallowed before 1999. Can you?

Glass Steagall would not have prevented banks from writing crappy mortgages. Would not have stopped the bubble from forming or bursting.

58 posted on 07/22/2016 8:38:40 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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“Glass Steagall would not have prevented banks from writing crappy mortgages. Would not have stopped the bubble from forming or bursting.”

Perhaps, but anything that breaks up the financial institutions and reduces their inflluence would be a plus. I wished that I had the time and the money to sue Morgan Stanley for what they did to my retirement funds They are crooks who lined their pockets with money it took us a lifetime to amass. We had a considerable investment in Lehman Brothers preferred stock. One week before LB went under we met with our broker to discuss divestment of that position. We were told that “if house rules didn’t prevent him from doing so, he’d personally buy all of our LB stock.” He said that LB was an exceptional investment, so we stayed with it and watched tens of thousands of dollars simply evaporate. And after the fact, he said words to the effect of “well, that’s the breaks, win some loose some!”


59 posted on 07/22/2016 8:58:34 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
So sorry to hear that. The brokerage industry has more than their share of greedy idiots.
60 posted on 07/22/2016 11:03:25 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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