Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

New Senate Bill “Ramrods U.S. Citizens and Hands Over Their Lands”
Right Edition ^ | 7/20/2016 | Jeremiah Johnson

Posted on 07/20/2016 12:24:16 PM PDT by HomerBohn

As it would appear, the Red Hot Chili Peppers gained a new member in their band by the name of Senator Steve Daines (R), Montana. Daines cannot resist giving away what is not his to give away, the norm these days rather than the exception for elected officials. The other “norm” is to keep submitting legislation until they sneak, pass, force, or redact it into law. Daines is a kind of quiet, unassuming man who is conservative at first appearance and first words. He was opposed to the CKST (Consolidated Kootenai & Salish Tribes) Water Compact that has been ratified into state law and is now merely awaiting Federal approval (and funding, naturally).

This little piece is different. That damnable demon of the USC has been raised, cited, and utilized to “justify” under the color of law a new Senate Bill’s introduction that will affect the whole country if it is passed, flat out. The existing legislation can be found under 25USC3115 and 25USC3104. The new bill proposes this:

Turning over huge tracts of Federal Forest lands – any federally managed forest area that is within a 200-mile radius of an Indian Reservation – and hand over management of that land to the Indian Tribes.

That’s right, and a portion of what comes up in the screenshot of the introduced bill reads “the Secretary concerned may treat Federal forest land as Indian forest land for purposes of planning and conducting forest land management activities.” It doesn’t beat around the bush, does it? Now the CKST water compact, if you have read my past articles regarding it is Montana State law, and the state has committed to $11 million toward instituting control of all surface and subsurface water in Northwestern Montana.

It is an Agenda 21 measure to take over the outlying areas. Montana only raised $3 million, and that doesn’t even scratch the surface of the grand total of $57 million estimated that is needed to put meters on all private wells, turn over the “management” to the Indian tribes, and the enforcement over to DHS. This water, incidentally, is all off-reservation water…not even water on Tribal lands.

Subsequently to that monstrosity being signed into law and “removing” the rights of citizens to their water came Weyerhaeuser. They bought out Plum Creek, the only self-sustaining plywood mill in Northwestern Montana located in Columbia Falls. Now comes the news that they’re shutting down the whole plant, firing 200+ employees, and using their interests in the area to buy more timber while transferring ownership of a large percentage of their lands to the Federal Government…specifically the USFS and the BLM.

Now enter Daines and his hokey “management” bill that essentially ramrods the United States citizens and hands over their lands to the Tribes, who have declared themselves to be sovereign nation. Representative Ryan Zinke (R), MT, is backing Daines measure and pursuing legislation in a similar vein.

All of this is proof positive of Alex Jones’ “Illusion of Choice” platform regarding political parties and elections as being illusory and only to mollify a public whose freedoms and rights have already been stolen from them.

Montana alone has 7 Indian reservations, so judging by the radius suggested in the Daines proposed legislation, does that mean after it’s signed into law the entire state will be “managed” by the Indian tribes? How will this affect other areas of the country with vast tracts of Federal Forest lands?

The big question: How much did one of the oligarchs behind the scenes either slip or promise Daines to obtain his service toward the Agenda 21 objectives?

There are no Republicans or Democrats…just “soft” Marxists and Marxists. There is no representation for the American people, just “paper people” who jump up and down on a platform until they’re elected…and then either do a complete one-eighty or subtly hack away at our rights akin to termites for money or additional political power. Mind you, they’re worse than “phonies” because they know exactly what they’re doing, and they don’t care…as long as their interests and families are taken care of. That is how they justify giving away what is not theirs…and even taking a piece of it for themselves.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: land; lousycongress; onepartysystem; tyranny
We're government slaves and Uncle Tyrant is the slave master. We have a one party system with two heads. Both need to be chopped off and the people need to regain control of this evil central socialist government.

The Democrat Party is to be despised; deeply hated, but the damned Republicrat Party is to be held in contempt.

1 posted on 07/20/2016 12:24:16 PM PDT by HomerBohn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: HomerBohn

One of the ditz bags in the group said that DT Jr. was so nice because he spent more time with his mother. LOL


2 posted on 07/20/2016 12:28:44 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HomerBohn

Red Hot chili Peppers!

Let’s listen to a lovely track from their new album. it’s called Encore, and I just love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46VSttwU_LA

I don’t even want to think about the traitorous senate.

I just want to listen to the radio drivin’ down Calexico Highway.


3 posted on 07/20/2016 12:31:40 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HomerBohn

200 miles?!?! That would cover most of the freaking COUNTRY. There are reservations all OVER.


4 posted on 07/20/2016 1:13:04 PM PDT by TalonDJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HomerBohn
Well,Ryan Zinke has gotten his last contribution from me.
5 posted on 07/20/2016 1:35:35 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TalonDJ
This would hand over the entire west coast , the best parts of the gulf coast , Florida and most of the east coast from the Carolinas northward including new York.


6 posted on 07/20/2016 1:39:03 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: HomerBohn

We’re no longer citizens but subjects. If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.


7 posted on 07/20/2016 1:39:50 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm not racist but I do profile.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HomerBohn

It would have been helpful if the article provided a bill number. I believe they are referring to Senate Bill 3014 “Tribal Forestry Participation and Protection Act of 2016”

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-114s3014is/pdf/BILLS-114s3014is.pdf


8 posted on 07/20/2016 1:53:21 PM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Neidermeyer; TalonDJ; HomerBohn
If you took the time to read up on this issue you would see it is about Reserved Water Rights aka Federal and Indian Land Reserved Water Rights aka the Winters Doctrine.

Scotus established Reserved Water Rights in 1908.

A tribe with a treaty right to farm has a reserved right to the water needed to farm. Reserved water rights supercede Prior Appropriation Water Rights which the water rights doctrine that Montana uses.

A lot of people will say that the injuns are trying to steal the White man's water. Quick! Somebody call Trump!

Trump will tell the injuns they can't have the water and if they can't grow a crop, they'll just have to eat sh*t.

9 posted on 07/20/2016 2:02:18 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin

I think the concern stems from Section 3 of the bill. It amends 25 U.S.C. § 3104 Management of Indian forest land, expanding the land covered from:

“’Indian forest land’ means Indian lands, including commercial and non-commercial timberland and woodland, that are considered chiefly valuable for the production of forest products or to maintain watershed or other land values enhanced by a forest cover”

“’Indian land’ means land title to which is held by— (A) the United States in trust for an Indian, an individual of Indian or Alaska Native ancestry who is not a member of a federally-recognized Indian tribe, or an Indian tribe, or (B) an Indian, an individual of Indian or Alaska Native ancestry who is not a member of a federally recognized tribe, or an Indian tribe subject to a restriction by the United States against alienation;

to also include:

“public lands (as defined in section 103 of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (43 2 U.S.C. 1702))”

43 2 U.S.C. 1702 reads: “The term ‘public lands’ means any land and interest in land owned by the United States within the several States and administered by the Secretary of the Interior through the Bureau of Land Management, without regard to how the United States acquired ownership, except— (1) lands located on the Outer Continental Shelf; and (2) lands held for the benefit of Indians, Aleuts, and Eskimos.”


10 posted on 07/20/2016 2:39:20 PM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Ray76
Correction:
“public lands (as defined in section 103 of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (43 2 U.S.C. 1702))”

43 2 U.S.C. 1702 reads: “The term

Should read:
“public lands (as defined in section 103 of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (43 U.S.C. 1702))”

43 U.S.C. 1702 reads: “The term


11 posted on 07/20/2016 2:44:40 PM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Ray76; Ben Ficklin

My concern with the bill is that it would give Indians control over already scarce water in the green river basin and various other basins in colorado, new mexico, utah nevada wyoming and idaho where a lot oil and natural gas would be extracted in a trump administration.

Judging by what you have seen is this concern founded or unfounded.


12 posted on 07/24/2016 10:34:26 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin; Ray76

would simply deleting

“public lands (as defined in section 103 of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (43 U.S.C. 1702))”

solve the problem?


13 posted on 07/24/2016 10:36:45 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson