Posted on 07/20/2016 11:00:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
The United States runs its air operations against ISIS in Iraq from Incirlik Air Base in Turkey. The base, used by other NATO forces as well, is not American. It is Turkish, and the U.S. needs government permission to fly from there. Since the 15 July coup attempt in Ankara, U.S. forces at Incirlik are essentially hostages to the Turkish government. The Turkish base commander and his aides have been arrested; U.S. personnel are confined to base; outside power has been cut off; and while the U.S. has been permitted to resume operations over Iraq and Syria, it is working under adverse conditions, to say the least. Most worrisome, about 50 hydrogen bombs are stored by the U.S. at Incirlik, ostensibly on behalf of NATO. These bombs are "protected" by Turkish troops and to some degree their potential use is shared with the Turkish Air Force.
The deployment goes back more than 50 years, begun as an effort to counter the Soviet military buildup as an offset to quantitatively larger Soviet ground forces facing Europe. But by the mid-1980s the U.S. put more emphasis on "tactical" missiles, largely to counter the Soviet Union's deployment of SS-20's, a short to medium range missile with multiple, independently targeted warheads (MIRV) in the second and third versions of the SS-20. In 1987 the Intermediate and Short-range Missile Nuclear Treaty (INF) was signed and the Russians and the U.S. began removing their missiles. By 1991, all the missiles of concern on both sides were eliminated.
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I don’t think there is a firm decision, yet. Kerry is playing for time: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/send-evidence-not-allegations-on-cleric-gulen-john-kerry-tells-turkey-745799.html
No.
Turkey already responded to that when they replied, did you need evidence for 911 ?
That would be “1000” times more powerful...no?
Certain components would be damaged beyond repair, to the point where they would have to be shipped off to a place like Pantex would be my best guess. Keep in mind that these devices are far more engineered than what went off at Trinity so they use a minimum of fissile material. As a result, it takes a lot more precision to achieve criticality. Beyond that I can’t talk about it.
It takes 45 minutes to get a nuke to the ME via an ICBM. There is NO REASON to keep nukes in the ME - it’s only a question of time before some ME crazy steals one - or all of ‘em.
Stop the madness - bring all nukes home.
I was a loader back in the Seventies, and the first time I saw one of those, I was amused...they looked like they were straight out of the Fifties, with those funny fins and streamlined aluminum shape, they just looked like art deco missiles!
They could put them on an A7, and we saw a film of the delivery method where the plane would pull up into a steep climb, and at some point on the upswing, the plane would release the bomb, and then roll onto its back, finally diving to get up speed and get out of the way.
It is a weird way to ‘loft’ a bomb, but apparently they could obtain reasonable accuracy even though it looked there was no way that was possible.
It would not. Those types of weapons cannot go off by accident. There is a specific chain of events that have to occur, and they cannot occur, even if the bomb hits concrete from 50,000 feet.
If there is an attempt to grab those bombs, I would fully expect to see that area carpeted with nuclear weapons tout de suite regardless of who is there, including our own personnel being trapped there.
That would be an awful choice, but I believe it is the one we would have to make.
But as another Freeper pointed out, the people making that choice in our own government have since stopped being “we”, and are something else, if their actions are any indication. So that isn’t a given any more.
No.
That is not to say if they were blown up, that it wouldn’t make a hell of a dirty radioactive mess, it is just that they wouldn’t all explode in unison the way a conventional ammunition dump would if hit in the right place by another conventional bomb.
Each bomb would have its own conventional explosive payload explode, making each bomb stored there into its own dirty bomb, but that is about it.
Some of the big ones are, but not these. Others have posted that these are dial a yield bombs. The yield ranges from much smaller to as much as 20 times larger.
Agreed.
BUMP!
“But as another Freeper pointed out, the people making that choice in our own government have since stopped being “we”, and are something else, if their actions are any indication. So that isn’t a given any more.”
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Quite correct.
Solution? Any?
—”I was based in Incirlik in 1980 as a nuclear weapons specialist.”
Given what you know, what would be involved in relocating these Hydrogen bombs?
Is there very much uranium in a Thermonuclear H2 bomb?
I verify your account.
A Vietnam War pilot showed us the hairy nuke drop maneuver he had to practice flying his A-6 if need be.
Needless to say he had concerns that he and his co-pilot might not survive the blast after delivery.
RE: “They could put them on an A7, and we saw a film of the delivery method where the plane would pull up into a steep climb, and at some point on the upswing, the plane would release the bomb, and then roll onto its back, finally diving to get up speed and get out of the way.
It is a weird way to ‘loft’ a bomb, but apparently they could obtain reasonable accuracy even though it looked there was no way that was possible.”
Get them out, if they are there. The other options get messy.
Where do you put them?
Let's face it. Turkey is or is very close to becoming an Islamist State.
“If Russia were to bomb the vaults holding the B61 weapons would it result in nuclear detonation of those weapons?”
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From what I know I believe it would take at least an atomic bomb to set off a hydrogen bomb. Someone else could likely confirm or correct me on that, tho.
I don’t know about now, but back then we drilled on making the weapons useless. Like I said, it would be very messy.
I would think the same protocol exists today but I have no way of knowing for sure.
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