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Turkey's last hope dies
FoxNews ^ | 07/16/2016 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 07/16/2016 11:42:44 AM PDT by rxsid

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To: Delta 21

....Or just Cankles just approve.


21 posted on 07/16/2016 12:04:14 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: jazusamo
"Lt Col Ralph Peters is spot on regarding Erdogan, the coup and traitors 0bama and Kerry."

He sure is spot on.

For anyone not yet understanding the situation or the history, although not exhaustive of course, it's well worth the read.

22 posted on 07/16/2016 12:05:00 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Not clear that the coup wasn't staged or at lest allowed to happen by Erdognn.

What kind of coup doesn't make a reasonable attempt to neutralize the leader from whom they are trying to seize power?

How is it that Erdogan already had a list of 2700 judges to fire if he wasn't preparing an excuse to get rid of them?

The US government had to have some prior intelligence on the coup and its chance of succeeding.

23 posted on 07/16/2016 12:05:19 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: rxsid

In other words, a new Muslim empire.


24 posted on 07/16/2016 12:05:48 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: rxsid

Stuff like this is going to greet Mr. Trump when he gets in.


25 posted on 07/16/2016 12:06:54 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: rxsid

Reichstag Fire


26 posted on 07/16/2016 12:07:46 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~GOPe=Vichy Republican swine)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Good thing he paid the price for treason against NATO.

That rat ##### ####ing #### ####.

four more months.

Does anybody else see obama having trouble handing the mantle to trump without some kind of trouble breaking out?

hope i’m just paranoid.


27 posted on 07/16/2016 12:08:28 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: rxsid
Turkey has been a crap house for years. Why the Turks voted this communists Muslim bastard in is beyond me. They had it good once, now all is lost. Once a Muslim takes over the Country it is lost.

This is what scared me with the US. King Obama is a communists black Muslim terrorists and that is the worst kind of Muslim in the world. If he became dictator, which he damn near did, America would never relive its greatness and freedom gone.

28 posted on 07/16/2016 12:08:49 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Delta 21
I am sure the Cankles administration will approve.

Yep, big time.

29 posted on 07/16/2016 12:09:21 PM PDT by Mr Apple ( jeb ..... how to be a complete total doofus! youtube.com/watch?v=R_d6Mir4RH0)
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To: rxsid
Western leaders rushed to condemn a coup attempt they refused to understand.

B.S. Obama knew all along which side to back --his Islamist brethren, of course.

And so Turkey furthers its aims of reigning over a new Caliphate, to replace the one they lost not long after the mass murder of a million and a half Christian Armenians in the early 20th century from 1915-1923.

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The first phase of the Armenian Genocide was the conscription of about 60,000 Armenian men into the Ottoman army, their disarmament and murder by their Turkish fellow soldiers. The second phase of the extermination of the Armenian population started on April 24, 1915 with the arrest of several hundred Armenian intellectuals and representatives of national elite (mainly in the capital of the Ottoman Empire, Constantinople) and their subsequent elimination. Hereinafter, Armenians worldwide started to commemorate the Armenian genocide on April 24. The third phase of the genocide is characterized with the exile of the massacres of women, children, elderly people to the desert of Syria. Hundreds of thousands of people were murdered by Turkish soldiers, police officers, Kurdish bandits during the deportation. The others died of epidemic diseases. Thousands of women and children were subjected to violence. Tens of thousands were forcibly islamized. The fifth phase is the universal and absolute denial of the Turkish government of the mass deportations and genocide carried out against Armenians in their homeland. Despite the ongoing process of international condemnation of the Armenian Genocide, Turkey fights against recognition by all means, including distortion of history, means of propaganda, lobbying activities and other measures. - See more at: http://www.genocide-museum.am/eng/armenian_genocide.php#sthash.S9u047p4.dpuf

30 posted on 07/16/2016 12:10:22 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Doogle

Same thing he did with Morsi in Egypt. Egypt had a good outcome so we can hope.


31 posted on 07/16/2016 12:10:44 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SkyDancer; rxsid

Very,very good point. Nobody will want to travel there.


32 posted on 07/16/2016 12:11:10 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~GOPe=Vichy Republican swine)
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To: rxsid
The media relies on experts-by-Wikipedia.

O, how tragically true.

Trivia is fun, but it isn't something to do journalism or government by...knowledge in the halls of power and the fake institutions of practicing journalism is 100 miles wide and a millimeter deep.

33 posted on 07/16/2016 12:11:50 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: rxsid

I wondered about the coup—why it didn’t fit with Bible prophecy.

Now everything is back in order as foretold.


34 posted on 07/16/2016 12:19:04 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: rxsid

http://www.investigativeproject.org/5026/why-turkey-erdogan-won-a-surprise-election-victory#


35 posted on 07/16/2016 12:21:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DHerion

Very much so. A clever play to consolidate power and smoke out the secularists.


36 posted on 07/16/2016 12:22:27 PM PDT by Lent
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To: rxsid

Ralph is on target.


37 posted on 07/16/2016 12:23:53 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: A CA Guy

Note the lack of women on the streets protesting the coup. Turkey has gone full-Muslim. Expect women to be all in burqas before too long.


38 posted on 07/16/2016 12:24:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: justa-hairyape
The turning point occurred when Obama publicly supported Erdogan. Same basic thing he did in Iran. The noble war prize winner strikes again.

It still isn't stopping Erdogan and Company from blaming the US for the coup attempt.

39 posted on 07/16/2016 12:25:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rxsid
Erdogan blames Fethullah Gulen an Islamic cleric who fled to the US as behind the coup, which is a false narrative and just an example of how Islamic extremists attack other Muslims who do not fit into the agenda of one group, this madness and scapegoating goes on all the time in the lies and insanity of countries with majority populations of Islamists that want to turn a modern country into a backward Islamic State and who support the Islamic Jihad.

53% of Turkey, especially in the villages and countryside, support turning Turkey into an Islamic State, 47% in the minority support the Ataturk Nationalists and a modern Secular State. The military in Turkey has always played the role of defending a secular state and the modernization of Turkey, a favorable relationship with the West, Europe and Asia, increasingly in the last 15 years the Islamists have been driving out modern Turks many who have fled to the US (we have a large population of them in the Santa Cruz-Monterey area of California, they also have populations in the East Bay of S.F.), these Islamists also have been murdering Christians and Jews and other religious minorities, there was a time where the majority of Turks were Ataturk Nationalists supporting modern secularist government but now many have fled in fear of the Islamist State Sharia law campaign led by the clerics in the mosques in Turkey.

The last election of Erdogan was a fake election. He is aligned with the clerics in the mosques who have populated the police in Turkey with jihadists, while large segments of the military, young officers many who are Western educated and oppose an Islamic State, are loyal to the modern Turkey and Ataturk Nationalists and loyal to their vision of their role to protect a secularist state.

Erdogan for the last two years has been clearly moving Turkey towards an Islamic State and even further restrictive and authoritarian rule. The secular Nationalists clearly could see it had reached a crisis point and that Erdogan is headstrong in taking Turkey down the authoritarian Islamic State model having a majority support among muslim Turks who favor, albeit not a large majority but a majority none the less, of furtber Islamist regimentation, Erdogan populating the police with Islamists, and the persecution of non-Muslims and modernist Turks continues in rapid pace now, the centralization of power into the hands of Erdogan and the pro-Islamic State Sharia law clerics in the mosques, and the officers in the military could see that an Islamic State was likely only a year away.

The Nationalists are outnumbered, the military which defends the secular modern Turkey is outnumbered by the supporters of an Islamic State in the countryside who want to abandon the secular modern goverrnment and establish a Sharia law Islamic State. The Islamists have the numbers to win an election, or fake an election for that matter, where the majority will then turn half the population of Turkey being the women of Turkey into slaves of Sharia, women in many areas of Turkey are now afraid to exercise their vote and will be total cattle of the Islamists men which Erdogan has as his supporters. The far left in the media will project the "leaders" of the coup as old men. This is a lie. The young men in the military who support the secular state and a modern Turkey took a last ditch attempt to stop Erdogan, but the odds were against them and at great risk without much confidence they could succeed but went for it anyway. It looks like they failed. The beheadings are now coming, Erdogan will use the coup to paint any opposition as treason and will lock in his dictatorship. He will move Turkey towards an Islamic State as the Islamists are the key to his power and authoritarian rule.

Hitler was elected Chancellor in Germany. You will hear Obama, who talked about supporting "elections" in Turkey yesterday, and saying something about Democracy. But the last election in Turkey, which was a fake election, will now be the last election for a long time. There will be no elections or total fake elections like seen in Iran. Erdogan thinks he has won and the Islaminization of Turkey will move forward even more quickly, and this is a disaster for the world. Turkey is the border between the West and the Khalifat.

But Erdogan has not won. Because soon, he will also be killed by the same Islamic extremists that he sees as his street thugs. He is a dead man walking whether he sees it or not. His very supporters in the Islamist leadrrship and mosques will target him next.

The failure of the coup in Turkey will now also embolden the Islamic State agenda of the extremists in Pakistan. Muhammad Ali Jinnah who was fundamental in the establishment of Pakistan as a nation with his Muslim League which was India's Muslim Brotherhood and has many links, never actually believed any of this Islamic fundamentalist nonsense, he ate pork, he smoked, he was only a Muslim on the surface, but saw things in terms of his own power.

90% of the Muslim population in Pakistan supports an Islamic State in Pakistan and the majority support Al Qaeda and ISIS. Within the Pakistani military, while also corrupted by Islamists who run their propaganda mills out of the mosques, are young officers, many Western educated, just like (or soon to be, who once were) in Turkey. They are a very thin line between Pakistan being a modern Muslim state or becoming an Islamic extremist State. Yes, these officers kill, and they will kill. Now the Islamic extremists in Pakistan have heen emboldened by the failed coup in Turkey. The Islamic extremists in Pakistan who want to set up an Islamic Sharia Law State dictatorship in Pakistan are embolden, they will do well in the next election if there is one. But an election may now not even be needed. They know the young officers in Pakistan now will likely hesitate to throw a coup if the extremists there have the victory in turning Pakistan into an Islamic State theocracy that supports Al Qaeda and ISIS and Tehreek-e-Taliban, Lashkar-e-Omar, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Tehreek-e-Jaferia, Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi and Lashkar-eJhangvi, Sipah-e-Muhammad, Jamaat-ul-Fuqra and other terrorist groups.

If Turkey becomes an Islamic State, this will be a world catastrophe.

It is the next step into World War 3 and multi-millions are now looking at death. The terrorists in Pakistan are now embolden. They do not fear the coup in the thin line within the military of Pakistan to stand between them and full control of Pakistan.

Pakistan has 130 highly powerful nuclear bombs that are fully lauchable and ready. War between Pakistan and India is closer now.

Obama is the worst President in US history. He travelled to Pakistan when college age at a time US citizens were not allowed to go. He us a neo-Islamist. Hillary in large part created ISIS in Syria and the extremists as so-called "rebels" in Libya while Secretary of State.

World war is coming very close now, not just terrorists who do not wear uniforms, but fully militarized armies of Islamic agenda in uniform. I think it is now less than 3 years away, let us see.


40 posted on 07/16/2016 12:29:54 PM PDT by ShivaFan
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