Posted on 07/15/2016 8:35:11 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
Southerners celebrate Nat Turner Day on October 2 (his birthday). As you know, he was executed in Jerusalem when he was 31 years old.
The war between the states should have never happened. It resulted in the destruction of the founders republic.
And they killed women and children too. You cool with that?
You can’t obliterate history.
You shouldn’t even try.
Both sides fought......men on both sides died.
Honor that.
Preserve the heritage.
For the first time in my 64 years I own a Confederate flag. I bought a couple of lapel pins recently out of disgust with the war on history. Don’t know when I will wear one, but I have them now.
The U.S. Civil War was about slavery just like the American Revolution was about tea.
Exactly! The war began over tariffs on Southern cotton, by the North.
I had relatives who fought on both sides, and I fly the battle flag on my ranch in Minnesota. This movement to erase Southern history is modern liberal propaganda taking over. Many Southern Democrats were more conservative than today’s Conservatives.
Slavery was the cause for secession, as the state declarations of secession and contemporary speeches by secessionists made clear. Secession was in turn the reason for war. To the frustration of abolitionists though, Lincoln, for political reasons, did not fully embrace emancipation until after the Union victory in the Battle of Antietam in September of 1862, and even then waited until after the New Year to issue it, with application limited to ten Southern states.
Quite true. In hindsight, it is easy enough to imagine ways that to the benefit of all but coffin makers, clever statesmanship and hard political bargaining could have averted war while freeing the slaves.
“And they killed women and children too. You cool with that?
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Am I going to mourn ISIS men’s family death if their Yazidi slaves kill them? Heck no. The enslavers deserve death for their crimes. The family is not a separate innocent entity. Good riddance.
Killing infants in their cradle while sleeping and throwing them in the fireplace? Nat Turner earned the rope he got.
It matters not a fig whether the war was about slavery because slavery was both legal and Constitutionally-protected. The upshot is that waging war to end slavery* was every bit as lawless and unconstitutional as it would be for Obama to issue a “Freedom From Firearms Proclamation,” then invade every home in every Red State to seize all guns.
In the aftermath of the civil war that that would precipitate, if the Red States won, the history books would read that they had fought to preserve the Constitution and defend against encroachments of individual liberty.
But if the Alinsky-ites were to win, they would write that it was the Red States’ love of guns and callous disregard for their fellow man had made the war necessary (conveniently ignoring that neither of these was either extra-legal or extra-constitutional).
In case you weren’t aware, Lincoln’s failure to plan for the upkeep of the newly freed slaves was the indirect cause of one million of them dying before the end of the decade. So while Lincoln might (underline might) have freed the slaves, his lack of foresight cost one in every four of them their life. http://nyti.ms/1aeQoY6
Lincoln, the great emancipator. La vérité historique est souvent une fable convenue.
*Yeah, I know that wasn’t Lincoln’s motivation, but I had to dumb it down for the benefit of the historical sophists.
In similar vain, I wouldn’t bother shedding any tears if escaped enslaved Yazidis, Christians, and even Shiite Moslems mow down ISIS members’ family, including the jihadlets in training. When you deprive a man of his freedom, which ALL enslavers do, I say they slavers and their entire institution deserve capital punishment.
You are evil.
Yet I have never defended, romanticized, or sought to minimize the great wrongs of slavery and Jim Crow in the South.
“So by your logic the founders and their wives and children should have suffered the same fate?”
They had many admirable qualities; holding slaves was not one of them. If they were still living in 1860s and were still not willing to free the slaves when there was a strong abolitionist movement, then, absolutely yes! If you enslave others, you don’t deserve life.
>> Slavery was the cause for secession,
Slavery unto itself was not the cause. The North was threatened by an independent, industrialized South.
Slavery was not the sole cause of the Civil War, but it was the predominant and essential cause. Lincoln’s election and the South’s folly of secession lit the fuse. Northern fear of Southern industrialization was virtually nonexistent and was not a cause for the Civil War.
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