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How the World Fell Out of Love with Obama
politico.com ^

Posted on 07/10/2016 4:13:59 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

The rest of the world fell as hard for Barack Obama as Americans did.

Back in 2008, the same qualities in the 47-year-old senator from Illinois that excited U.S. voters enthralled people around the globe. He was a fresh face and a compelling orator. He had spent his childhood in the Asia-Pacific, and his skin color alone made billions of people feel a connection with him. Perhaps most importantly, he was not George W. Bush, the president who invaded Iraq. Obama promised “hope” and “change” and people believed he could deliver—that he would end wars in Muslim countries, improve America’s standing on human rights, even alleviate global poverty. “Yes we can!” shouted The Age, an Australian newspaper, when he won office. Just months later, the rookie president was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, a nod more to his promise than to anything he had accomplished.

Obama’s overseas poll numbers were stratospheric in those early days. In countries like France and Germany, more than 90 percent of people surveyed by the Pew Research Center expressed confidence that Obama would “do the right thing regarding world affairs.” Even in some Middle Eastern countries, where U.S. presidents are rarely liked, nearly half of the populace had high expectations for Obama.

But peace did not arrive in Obama’s time. Obama’s standing in much of the world seemed to sag each year as he struggled to fulfill his promises. America, after all, still has troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the Middle East, revolutionary movements, including ones Obama overtly backed, have largely fizzled or bred violent anarchy. And Russia has ignored Obama’s warnings and asserted its influence in former Soviet states, sometimes at the point of a gun. Many saw in this picture a naive president and a United States of diminished standing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nowecant; obama
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As I said, and your last response proved beyond a doubt you aren’t worthy of further discussion. Have a nice day.

I am expecting your last word as you are, and always have been as I’ve noted over the years one to have the last word whether it’s necessary, or not. Go ahead, and do as you always do, and get in that last word.


61 posted on 07/10/2016 5:03:30 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: humblegunner
If Obama is a muslim and muslims treat women like crap and subjugate them then how the hell is Obama taking orders from a woman?

Michelle La Belle Antoinette keeps the strong arm on him.

62 posted on 07/10/2016 5:07:29 PM PDT by spokeshave (Somewhere there is a ceiling for Trump.....Yeah, it's called The Oval Office)
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To: RoosterRedux

The world fell out of love with Obama a long time ago. The media just didn’t write about it.

Most leaders of sovereign countries don’t appreciate being lectured to on a regular basis.


63 posted on 07/10/2016 5:07:47 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: okie01

I wasn’t here at the time. I was posting the same at Townhall and Michelle Malkin.com

It is two citizen parents. They do not have to be natural born citizens, just citizens to produce a natural born citizen.
Foreign national parent(s) bestow foreign citizenship(s).
He did indeed tell everyone that he was born a British subject.
Both parties squelched any debate.
Only “nutters” believe British subjects aren’t eligible.


64 posted on 07/10/2016 5:11:29 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: RoosterRedux

The world had nothing to go by except for what they read in the media and we all know how that went.


65 posted on 07/10/2016 5:11:53 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: RoosterRedux

I cannot read this crap.

In 2007 we were vetting him properly on FR and Sean Hannity was doing his part. We knew then that he had a citizenship problem, didn’t use his own SS number, had a gay past, a cocaine and crack past, had a pedophile mentor, had gotten miracle acceptances from colleges, his autobiographies contained a lot of fiction, he was connected to Islamist movements in Africa, some Saudi connection, hugely connected to Bill Ayres. We saw how phony he was with his speeches between the styrofoam Ionic columns, heard his copied, overdone Malcolm X cadence.

No one here was in love. We were properly fearing for our nation.


66 posted on 07/10/2016 5:17:01 PM PDT by Yaelle (Sorry, Mr. Franklin. We've been extremely careless with our Republic.)
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To: okie01

The Senate Resolution for McCain, that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama, relied on McCain having two citizen parents as their rationale since it was indisputable that he was not born here.


67 posted on 07/10/2016 5:17:15 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Godebert
"If his (obama) father really is the Kenyan he claims, then he is NOT a natural born citizen."

Hang in there. Another few months and then all the books and articles exposing the truth will start the printing presses running overtime. We'll soon see his birth certificate, college records and everything else he's refused to show us.

68 posted on 07/10/2016 5:20:35 PM PDT by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: okie01

Chester A. Arthur was indeed ineligible, but no one could prove it at the time. He took great pains to hide the truth.


69 posted on 07/10/2016 5:21:09 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: okie01
But nobody realized he wasn't qualified until over a month after he was elected?

Not true...Polosi issued two separate sets of certifying documents prior to the election....both had the same typo at the end of the first line of text...(google it)

70 posted on 07/10/2016 5:21:24 PM PDT by spokeshave (Somewhere there is a ceiling for Trump.....Yeah, it's called The Oval Office)
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To: RoosterRedux
revolutionary movements, including ones Obama overtly backed, have largely fizzled or bred violent anarchy

Does the author really think this was chance? No one chooses exactly the worst possible option every time unless widespread destruction is the goal. Obama picked the movements that would lead to anarchy because:

Obama just wants to watch the world burn.

71 posted on 07/10/2016 5:23:43 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: okie01

Cmdr. Kirchner and Donofrio were writing about it before the usurper was installed by the uniparty.


72 posted on 07/10/2016 5:32:05 PM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I lived in Germany when he was first elected. They were just gaga over him. I’m sure my neighbors thought I was a rassis for detesting him from the start.


73 posted on 07/10/2016 5:32:16 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
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To: RoosterRedux
The rest of the world fell as hard for Barack Obama as Americans did.

When you start out with a false premise, the rest of the article ain't worth a 'sheat', therefore, not worth reading.
74 posted on 07/10/2016 5:36:55 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: Godebert
Cmdr. Kirchner and Donofrio were writing about it before the usurper was installed by the uniparty.

Good for them. Yet, nothing made it onto FR -- the premiere conservative site on the web -- until over a month after the election.

Doesn't that suggest that nobody was paying any attention to Cmdr. Kirchner and Donofrio and their wails about Obama's eligibility?

75 posted on 07/10/2016 5:38:34 PM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01

You don’t remember JustiaGate? Where the leftists removed the USSC Minor decision defining natural born Citizen from the web?


76 posted on 07/10/2016 5:46:38 PM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: okie01

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),

Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.

But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

If there is extensive law written that covers election fraud, but it is impossible to enforce, or if a sufficient number of people agree that So-and-So is the President or Pope despite the law, how does that not utterly, completely destroy the entire notion of the Rule of Law itself? As I have said for years with regards to Obama, if you can’t enforce Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the Constitution, what can you enforce? Can you enforce the border? Can you enforce citizenship? Equal protection? Search and seizure? Right to bear arms? Can you enforce the law against treason? Theft? Murder? Trafficking in body parts? Religious persecution?

Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

Not much information exists on why the Third Congress (under the lead of James Madison and the approval of George Washington) deleted "natural born" from the Naturalization Act of 1790 when it passed the Naturalization Act of 1795. There is virtually no information on the subject because they probably realized that the First Congress committed errors when it passed the Naturalization Act of 1790 and did not want to create a record of the errors.

It can be reasonably argued that Congress realized that under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, Congress is given the power to make uniform laws on naturalization and that this power did not include the power to decide who is included or excluded from being a presidential Article II "natural born Citizen." While Congress has passed throughout United States history many statutes declaring who shall be considered nationals and citizens of the United States at birth and thereby exempting such persons from having to be naturalized under naturalization laws, at no time except by way of the short-lived "natural born" phrase in Naturalization Act of 1790 did it ever declare these persons to be "natural born Citizens."

The uniform definition of "natural born Citizen" was already provided by the law of nations and was already settled. The Framers therefore saw no need nor did they give Congress the power to tinker with that definition. Believing that Congress was highly vulnerable to foreign influence and intrigue, the Framers, who wanted to keep such influence out of the presidency, did not trust Congress when it came to who would be President, and would not have given Congress the power to decide who shall be President by allowing it to define what an Article II "natural born Citizen " is.

Additionally, the 1790 act was a naturalization act. How could a naturalization act make anyone an Article II "natural born Citizen?" After all, a "natural born Citizen" was made by nature at the time of birth and could not be so made by any law of man.

Natural Born Citizen Through the Eyes of Early Congresses

Harvard Law Review Article FAILS to Establish Ted Cruz as Natural Born Citizen

Watch: Mark Levin declares Ted Cruz a "Naturalized Citizen"

Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

The settled law of the land is that the US President must be a natural born citizen, and that to be a natural born citizen, you must have been born in the United States to parents both of whom were US citizens when you were born.

You may disagree with the goal of the Constitutional Convention, and/or with the means they chose to achieve it. But it's not a technicality, not an anachronism no longer relevant in modern times, nor is it racist. Especially in modern times, it enables persons of any race or ethnic heritage to become President. And it's what the Constitution requires.

You may also disagree with binding precedent regarding the meaning of "natural born citizen" as established in Minor. But in our system, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court's interpretation of it, are the "supreme law of the land." And if one faction gets to disregard the Constitution and/or the Supreme Court because they disagree, then that sets a precedent where all other factions can do the same.

Any Argument Against the Natural Law Definition of "Natural Born Citizen" Can easily be Defeated Here

77 posted on 07/10/2016 5:47:39 PM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: okie01

I guarantee that I will post the truth every single time you even think about mentioning the usurpers eligibility. Now go away, obot.


78 posted on 07/10/2016 5:51:32 PM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: Godebert; Ladysforest

Some bloggers external to FR were doing extensive research.

Hat tip to ladysforest and others.

I remember also the Texas Darlin blog. There were others...


79 posted on 07/10/2016 5:51:51 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Sasparilla

mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man....


And he is A-OK to run for President but TRUMP is a racist.


80 posted on 07/10/2016 5:52:56 PM PDT by Yaelle (Sorry, Mr. Franklin. We've been extremely careless with our Republic.)
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