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Spoiled College Grad Demands New Dress Code at Job, Gets the Boot
pjmedia.com ^ | 6/29/2016 | Tom Knighton

Posted on 06/29/2016 11:36:22 AM PDT by rktman

The next day, all of us who signed the petition were called into a meeting where we thought our proposal would be discussed. Instead, we were informed that due to our “unprofessional” behavior, we were being let go from our internships. We were told to hand in our ID badges and to gather our things and leave the property ASAP.

We were shocked. The proposal was written professionally like examples I have learned about in school, and our arguments were thought out and well-reasoned. We weren’t even given a chance to discuss it. The worst part is that just before the meeting ended, one of the managers told us that the worker who was allowed to disobey the dress code was a former soldier who lost her leg and was therefore given permission to wear whatever kind of shoes she could walk in. You can’t even tell, and if we had known about this we would have factored it into our argument.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: byefelicia; dresscode; fired; intern; interns; internship; millennials; petition; workplace
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To: rktman
Earlier thread: I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code

(I'm just linking to another thread that's had over 100 posts. This post isn't at all some "already posted!!!!" complaint. Even if I tended to complain, that earlier thread has a different source and a significantly different title.)

41 posted on 06/29/2016 12:18:33 PM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: rktman; nikos1121; TexasGator; Delta 21; 5th MEB; truth_seeker; Hildy
Even though they were just interns I guarantee you some of them made phone calls to see if what happened to them was legal!

"They can do that?"

42 posted on 06/29/2016 12:20:22 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: rktman

what’s with the page jumping back to the top every few seconds? makes reading rather difficult


43 posted on 06/29/2016 12:21:37 PM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: rktman
Note to intern: before trying such stunts in the future, be aware of importance that key stakeholders may place on your "proposals" to them. No matter how carefully thought-out and well-reasoned your arguments may be, once you put something into writing and drop it on someone's desk, there's no reeling it back in.

In the future, consider floating your proposals in what some like to call a "trial balloon." Have a chit-chat with a seasoned confidant, perhaps your intern mentor over lunch. Make some harmless small talk about the weather, the local ball team, a project you heard about going on in the company, etc.

If you get the feeling that you're in a "safe space" with that confidant, ask them how a proposal such as yours would land with management. If they're vaguely in agreement, ask about the best way to make that proposal and what the best timing would be.

If the company is undergoing some financial storms, or if the company is coming off a bad quarter or two, unless your proposal contains an immediate payback with zero cost, you'd better zip it. Just because you learned how to draft a "business memorandum" in your Effective Communications' course doesn't mean your boss will see it that way.

44 posted on 06/29/2016 12:23:20 PM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: truth_seeker
Of course that doesn’t mean former employees won’t try—race, color, age, sexual orientation, physical/mental disabilities might be alleged. Employers are advised by their HR departments to document, document, warn, document, etc.

Counsel them for being late/tardy/using company equipment for personal use (Surfing), etc. Then catch them in the act and fire them. ALL OF IT IN WRITING!

45 posted on 06/29/2016 12:25:30 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: onedoug

I would be on the phone with others that applied for those valued internships and see if they were still available.


46 posted on 06/29/2016 12:26:00 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: rktman

Tgeir parents paid 100s of thousands and they learned nada zero nothing. Now they have learned far more in one meeting in the real world. Nice.


47 posted on 06/29/2016 12:26:19 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Lonely Bull

LOL! Well, I already posted something the search engine didn’t find. Oh well.

News Alert. Snowflakes melt in this age of glow bull warming.


48 posted on 06/29/2016 12:27:35 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

Probably saw nothing wrong with drafting and circulating the petition on the clock. The snowflakes are going to have a much tougher time paying back their student loans than anyone imagines.


49 posted on 06/29/2016 12:31:12 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: rktman
I have never had a job before (I’ve always focused on school) and I was hoping to gain some experience before I graduate next year.

Mission accomplished then.

50 posted on 06/29/2016 12:31:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Hildy

Now they are OUTTERNS


51 posted on 06/29/2016 12:33:48 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Vince Ferrer

Teachable moment? Bet they only learned to present a better argument in their next petition. A double S hats.


52 posted on 06/29/2016 12:46:17 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: camle

“what’s with the page jumping back to the top every few seconds? makes reading rather difficult”

Scroller on your mouse is hosed.


53 posted on 06/29/2016 12:47:58 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I?)
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To: nikos1121
They’re interns....

... not anymore.

54 posted on 06/29/2016 1:03:27 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I'm not a smug know-it-all; I just want you to experience epistemological closure.)
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To: rktman

They were interns.............


55 posted on 06/29/2016 1:04:44 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: rktman

Oh the graduation commencement speech I would give!

Dear Graduates of this fine institution, Welcome to the real world. Now you education just begins.

First, you must learn that nobody gives a damn how you feel.
Second, you must learn that the BOSS may not always be right, but he’s the BOSS.
Thirdly, your sole responsibility is to make the BOSS happy.
Fourthly, and finally, you will learn that if you do not pay attention to the first three rules, you will be unemployed with no pay.

Have a nice life!.......................


56 posted on 06/29/2016 1:11:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: rktman
I use to be a Bookseller at Barnes & Noble back in the 90's. They had a dress code. My manager (a very nice lady) hired me on the spot because I showed up for my interview wearing my good Brooks Brothers suit.

She's long since gone unfortunately and the Booksellers look like they just walked in from a homeless camp.

One other thing. No one was allowed any facial piercings ;-)

Ed

57 posted on 06/29/2016 1:16:48 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: rktman
At-will workers can be fired at-will if the company doesn't like them. Doesn't need to be a reason. Especially if they are still in some probationary period. At least that's they way it was when I was working for others.

But I come from that world one sees in the rear view mirror. What do I know?

58 posted on 06/29/2016 1:17:10 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: rktman
reality is that colleges -- the educational institutions that are theoretically supposed to prepare these kids for the real world -- did these students a disservice by treating every petition or pet cause as valid, allowing the inmates to run the asylum

Progressive education rejects abstractions and focuses on concretes and actions over thought. Pluralistic education takes diversity into account and treats all subjects equally. Together they fail to transmit acquired knowledge, and instead they focus on developing the student's self expression of his own desires, interests, and impulses.

59 posted on 06/29/2016 1:17:17 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: rktman

I sometimes got razzed for eating at my desk at my last job. I have hyper-sensitive hearing, and couldn’t stand to be in the break room when the icemaker turned on or the compressors cycled on the fridges. But I don’t think anyone ever sent out a petition because of it!

I did know one who got laughed out of the boss’s office for complaining about me, though. I was the QA then, and he claimed his bad scores shouldn’t count against him because I never spoke to him verbally. I had sent him emails and instant messages by the dozens, his immediate supervisor had spoken to him about it several times, and so had the other QA on the floor. But because I hadn’t talked to him about it, he thought he should get a pass.

My boss laughed him out of the office for that. Why? Because I was MUTE!!!!

It’s amazing what people will do to try and justify not following the rules.


60 posted on 06/29/2016 1:17:46 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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