Posted on 06/28/2016 1:54:03 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
In a foreign policy speech in Hamburg on Monday, Steinmeier announced that Germany would campaign for a non-permanent seat in 2019 and 2020. The country last held a Security Council seat from 2011 to 2012. Diplomats will seek support for Germany's candidacy before an election is held in mid 2018. Germany's application would require approval from at least two thirds of the 193 states in the UN General Assembly to be successful.
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Nope, they could have sent troops with us to Iraq. But whatever the excuse, they shouldn’t get a say about who will and won’t fight.
>>As a stipulation to the end of the war in Europe, Germany was disallowed a military.
The members of the Bundeswehr who helped us, the Brits and the rest of NATO face down the Soviet tank armies across the East German and Czech borders during the Cold War would be surprised to hear this.
“They will never take Europe away from us” German Foreign Minister. Same old Germany we have come to hate since 1870....
I watched the fallout from Cologne/New Years Eve. If a country will not stand up for itself within its own borders, its vote will be for sale in multilateral settings.
Say what you want about Putin or Xi, but they stand up for their countries’ interests in the international arena. More that I can say for Obama, Hollande or Cameron.
The world is just better when Germany has no say in war making decisions, or on international relations decisions. That’s just how it is. It really will always need to be that way.
They were too evil back then. And they are too messed up mentally from WWII to make good choices. Witness flooding in every stripe of moslem and demanding Europe do the same.
They do idiotic things like this to show that they are no longer the same ones who lined up hundreds of thousands of naked women and shot em.
Add in Chancellor Merkel (they don’t even have sense enough to retire the term “chancellor”) wanting to rule Europe by decree.
They just aren’t healthy enough psychologically to be allowed to be on the security council.
How so? Worse than Iran? Worse than China? Worse than North Korea? Worse than Russia? What a ridiculous statement.
Also they don’t contribute fighting forces to UN actions
They contribute money like we do. The US contributes a miniscule 80 people to UN peacekeeping forces It is a racket for the developing world to provide these forces in return for money.
That’s why Germany should never be on the security council.
So supplying the UN with combat forces is the metric?
More aware than you are. So the possession of nuclear weapons should be currency of who does and does not get on the SC? North Korea, Pakistan, Israel and India have nuclear weapons and Iran is on its way to getting one. They don't have permanent seats on the SC.
Russia contributes 1.602%, which places Russia as ranking 14th among all the UN member states. Not even in the top ten.
Germany has nothing to offer. And nobody is talking about UN peacekeeping forces. We are talking if the UN ever authorizes and votes for a war.
The world works better when heinie is kept down. They are a world destabilizing wrecking crew.
The lesser nations that get a seat here are just passing through and really get no say and no veto power.
The blockheads are wanting to expand the Permanent seats on the council....and they want one of the new 4 seats they propose. They don’t deserve it.
“And they are the very worst the planet has to offer politically. “
Its pretty obvious that isn’t casting Germany against Saudi Arabia, North Korea etc. But yes, they created or were at the forefront of every evil political system inflicted on humanity.
The holy roman empire....check.
Monarchs.................check.
Prussian Bureaucracy.....check.
Communism................check.
Nazism...................check.
Islamism.................check.
No thanks to German ideas. They should just stick to the good things they do. Cars, aircraft, sausages, zeppelins, beer, instrumentation, perfect white wines, appreciation of nature, literature, etc.
Well, since Germany has been responsible for wiping out two generations of European men, maybe we should keep them where we can watch them.
The winners write the rules.
We have to wait until all of the WWII generations are gone before that can even be discussed.
After all, without Germany, there would not be a United Nations!
I would have problems with the US getting involved in any instance where the UN authorizes war. The UN is controlled by the Left and the Third World. If they had their way, Israel would be wiped off the map.
The world works better when heinie is kept down. They are a world destabilizing wrecking crew.
You know very little about history and Germany. Germans have contributed immensely to the world in terms of science, technology, music, philosophy, etc.
46 million Americans have German ancestry. German Americans represent 17% of the total U.S. population and 26% of the non-Hispanic white population. German-Americans are America's largest single ethnic group (if you divide Hispanics into Mexican-Americans, Cuban-Americans, etc). n 2013, according to the Census bureau, 46m Americans claimed German ancestry: more than the number who traced their roots to Ireland (33m) or England (25m).
As someone who can trace his German ancestors back to 1704 in America, longer than my Irish ancestors in 1840, I find your comments offensive and groundless. My wife is German, an immigrant.
You are an ignorant fool.
It is why the UN is an anachronism. Germany, Japan, and India deserve permanent representation on the SC. Germany and Japan are paying 18% of the costs of the organization. No taxation without representation.
So you don’t know S**t about history. The Holy Roman Empire was no different than any other empire of it’s time. It actually served as more of a customs union, and defended much of Europe against Islam.
Monarchs, not a German invention. Monarchy was different in the Germanic tribes, Land and power devided amongst all male offspring instead of just the favored or oldest one.
Prussian bureaucracy, all bureaucrats are the same. Th reason there were so many Jews in Germany to be killed was because Fredrick the Great invited them in, seeing the economic benefit to Prussia. Prussia was at one time considered the most progressive (for the time) country on the continent.
Communism started to grow in Germany after WWI but was destroyed by the Freikorps.
Nazis, give you that one.
Islam has nothing to do with Germany other than the Nazi flirtation with it and the current stupid German government.
Nothin’ but love.
Maybe. But Germany isn’t in any position to be providing military guarantees beyond European borders. Their army doesn’t even have an armored division any longer, and yet they keep pushing the EU boundaries eastward (with little to back it up).
They are part of NATO. The German military has declined over the last few decades. There are just 178,000 active soldiers, placing it among the 30 largest military forces in the world and making it the second largest in the European Union behind France in terms of personnel. In addition the Bundeswehr has approximately 40,000 reserve personnel (2014). With German military expenditures at €34.4 billion, the Bundeswehr is among the top ten best-funded forces in the world, even if in terms of share of German GDP, military expenditures remain average at 1.2% and below the NATO recommendation of 2%.
After a ruling of the Federal Constitutional Court in 1994 the term "defence" has been defined to not only include protection of the borders of Germany, but also crisis reaction and conflict prevention, or more broadly as guarding the security of Germany anywhere in the world.
In a Reversal, Germany’s Military Growth Is Met With Western Relief
You know times have changed when the Germans announce they are expanding their army for the first time in 25 years — and no one objects.
Back when the Berlin Wall fell, Britain and France in particular feared the re-emergence of a German colossus in Europe. By contrast, Berlin’s pledge last month to add almost 7,000 soldiers to its military by 2023, and an earlier announcement to spend up to 130 billion euros, about $148 billion, on new equipment by 2030 were warmly welcomed by NATO allies.
Their army doesn’t even have an armored division any longer, and yet they keep pushing the EU boundaries eastward (with little to back it up).
The 1st Panzer Division (German: 1. Panzerdivision) is an armoured division of the German Army. It also bears the designation Intervention Force Division (Division Eingreifkräfte). Its staff is based at Hanover. In the course of the current reorganisation of the Bundeswehr it will become the backbone of Germany's newly formed intervention forces which will have a manpower of 35,000 soldiers in total. This division is equipped and trained for high intensity combat operations against militarily organized enemies as well as peacekeeping missions. The majority of all German troops assigned to EU-Battlegroups and Nato Response Forces will come from this division. It also represents Germany's permanent contribution to the binational I. German/Dutch Corps.
The Dutch 43rd Mechanized Brigade. will be integrated into the 1st Panzer Division, and will be operational from 2019.
Intervention Force Division / 1st Panzer Division is Germany's last full-scale conventional division.
Sounds like a presumption that the UN is any good. An entity whose charter was patterned after the 1936 USSR constitution cannot be any good.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=germany
408 tank would be about right to establish an armored/mech force of 1 tank division plus a training establishment. One can argue the utility of MBT’s on the modern battlefield, but 408 tanks is a puny force for the eastern front where distances are vast and the cities are pretty big.
The active duty strength of the German Army is also about the same size as the US Marine Corps. Something to think about.
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