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The Dangers of Federal Gun Owner Database
American Liberty Report ^ | 6/26/2016 | NA

Posted on 06/26/2016 11:53:52 AM PDT by dvan

Hawaii is considering a law that would place the names of all gun owners in the state in an FBI database. Supporters believe it’s a groundbreaking step to make Hawaii a national leader when it comes to safe gun laws according to the AP.

The idea that placing the names of legal gun owners into a federal database will make Hawaii any safer is inherently flawed. The majority of gun violence isn’t committed by law abiding citizens who purchase and register their guns legally. It’s committed by those who do not.

The law will deter legal gun ownership as many gun owners and gun enthusiasts do not want to have their names on any database. They understand that this is an important first step toward having their guns seized and taken from them – something that happened in Australia not too long ago.

Opponents of the law believe that being entered into a federal database, such as this, creates an attitude of guilty until proven innocent for all gun owners. It also interferes with their Constitutionally-guaranteed rights to bear arms.

What the 2016 Election Cycle Means for Gun Owners

It is no secret that Hillary Clinton is in favor of stricter gun control laws and against private gun ownership in general. She has even gone so far as to accuse gun owners who are part of organizations like the NRA of being terrorists in a 2015 Town Hall. Claiming that we cannot allow “a minority of people to hold a viewpoint that terrorizes a majority of people.”

She’s running for President and gun owners cannot sit back and allow her to win. If she does, the consequences will reach far deeper than a federal database.

She will control the Supreme Court balance for the next four to eight years if she wins. That is something all gun owners, regardless of how they feel about Donald Trump need to fully understand.

It is why the NRA has endorsed Donald Trump in this election cycle stating that“If she (Clinton) gets just one Supreme Court nomination, Hillary’s court will hold that the Second Amendment is a government right and not an individual right, and you can kiss your guns goodbye,” according to the Los Angeles Times.

The proposed law in Hawaii is why this election cycle is so important. It is believed that if the law is passed, the case will eventually make its way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

If Clinton is elected and fills the current court vacancy – and others that arise, with anti-gun justices, gun ownership in this country will be on the line.

We will then see more states passing stricter gun control laws knowing the court will uphold them if they are called into question. Once that precedent is set, it becomes open season for national databases and paves the way for mass confiscation of guns purchased legally.

The Faulty Logic of the Left

At the same time, taking away or interfering with the rights of law abiding citizens to purchase and own guns does nothing to stop violence crimes in which illegally owned guns are used. All it does is create even more defenseless victims for these criminals and law breakers to attack.

For those who believe in the Second Amendment, you know that self-defense wasn’t the original intent of the amendment. It was created so that the people would never be held hostage to a government intent on taking away their rights.

The Constitution was written by men who had just gone to extraordinary measures to rid themselves of the tyranny of a government who taxed them but did not offer them adequate representation.

If we allow Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders (in the far-fetched possibility that she is held accountable for her national security crimes with her email server) to become President in this election cycle we may never be able to recover.

The biggest danger of a federal gun owner database is that it will become a slippery slope into tyranny that this nation will never be able to recover from.

Use your power at the ballot box in November to let left know that gun owners are not a tiny minority of voters and that the real terror is coming from those who own guns illegally and the ones who want to take away our rights to own them period.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; fbirapback; fedgunenroll; guncontrol; hawaii; hawaiifedgunenroll; liberty; secondamendment
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More bad thinking by Liberals as they blunder along the wrong road.
1 posted on 06/26/2016 11:53:52 AM PDT by dvan
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They already have one. It's called NICS and you register with it every time you purchase a gun from a federally licensed dealer.

And don't give me that nonsense that they don't keep that information just because it is illegal for them to do so.

2 posted on 06/26/2016 11:55:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If the Orlando terrorist doesnÂ’t represent all Muslims, why does he represent all gun-owners?)
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What is the penalty for keeping a database of the Federal background checks?

According to the 2nd Amendment Foundation, there is none.


3 posted on 06/26/2016 11:57:03 AM PDT by joshua c (Allah's paradise is full of mass murderers)
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To: dvan

KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK

“Mr. Smith, we are an armed UN unit, and it is time for you to turn over all your weapons and ammunition. Now tell us where they are, and wait here while we take them. Resistance is futile.”


4 posted on 06/26/2016 12:04:28 PM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: dvan
This is the first step to gun confiscation. They will do by piece meal method, first all automatic weapons. Then move on to other weapons until they get them all. That is what the communists liberals need to protect their raping of America with a totally helpless citizens to protect themselves and kill tyranny.
5 posted on 06/26/2016 12:05:34 PM PDT by Logical me
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The only ones that will be safe after it’ passage, WILL BE THE FEDERAL GUN COPS, Nobody else.
6 posted on 06/26/2016 12:08:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: dvan

More dangerous to have a ‘Hawaiian’ alien in the White Hut.


7 posted on 06/26/2016 12:13:11 PM PDT by RW_Whacko
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To: dvan

didn’t canada try this? spent billions, no benefit, very low compliance. eventually scrapped?


8 posted on 06/26/2016 12:20:16 PM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: dvan
We must always make sure that the good people can outgun the criminals and the political class.
Imagine what will happen the day that balance tips the wrong way.

9 posted on 06/26/2016 12:23:04 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: dvan

Registration=Confiscation


10 posted on 06/26/2016 12:30:08 PM PDT by 867V309 (It's over. It's over now.)
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To: dvan

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

we are not vacationing in Hawaii now


11 posted on 06/26/2016 12:31:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: polymuser

Guilty until proven innocent.

Mr. Smith lost his weapons and ammunition in a mishap while surfing.

Or maybe while standing on the edge of an active volcano. Nope, can’t produce them. Sorry, fellows.

Taqqiya does not work only for Muslims.


12 posted on 06/26/2016 12:33:09 PM PDT by alloysteel (Of course you will live in interesting times, Nobody has a choice, now.)
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To: dvan
More bad thinking by Liberals as they blunder along the wrong road.

No "bad thinking", blunder" or "wrong road", from their perspective. They think they have sufficient support among the populace to pull off disarmament of their enemies.

13 posted on 06/26/2016 12:34:54 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: alloysteel
Guilty until proven innocent. Mr. Smith lost his weapons and ammunition in a mishap while surfing. Or maybe while standing on the edge of an active volcano. Nope, can’t produce them. Sorry, fellows. Taqqiya does not work only for Muslims.

Nazi Germany had that problem, people did not want to give up their (registered) arms.

So the order was issued that anyone found with a weapon was summarily executed on the spot, and for those that 'lost' their weapons, the authorities would come over, burn your house to the ground, sift through the ashes, smile and say, "You're right! No guns here!"

Then they would bundle your family and you up and take you to jail, so you at least had someplace to stay.

"Losing" your weapons does not work.

14 posted on 06/26/2016 12:37:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: polymuser

Resistance maybe futile but the flunky that says those words is a DEAD MAN before he can finish. Whatever follows is irrelevant. The survivors of his unit will be reticent, if nothing else.


15 posted on 06/26/2016 12:41:31 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; dvan; Logical me

FRiends, let’s pause for a moment.

There’s no doubt that Bammie & Feinstein would confiscate our guns if they could. “Mr. & Mrs. American, turn ‘em all in!” Difi told Diane Sawyer. These are wicked people, got it.

But first Congress has to pass & Preezy has to sign, a law creating a mandatory national gun registry. That’s proven politically impossible ever since DiFi mounted her high horse on gun control three decades ago. Too many Democrats with too many vulnerable seats, bottom line. Al Gore pushed registration in 2000, and lost.

Next, look at registration compliance rates in Australia, Canada, NY, NJ, & CT. Abysmal. And the powers that be have not staged “a few spectacular raids on a few noncompliant homes” just to frighten all the others. Big news if they did.

Furthermore, that Form 4473 is not a marriage certificate. Now, here’s the kicker: without a mandatory requirement to report the sale or transfer of one’s firearm (essential to a national registry), `registration’ by other means such as rogue FBI agents photocopying FFL logbooks is practically meaningless.

“Where’s that AR-15 you bought on June 22, 2009?” Tell them to pack sand unless Obama has released the flying monkeys to kick down doors nationwide, and then Civil War II is officially in session.

The aformentioned rogue states of NY, CT, & NJ are unintentionally giving warning to the rest of the states.

Obama whines about how that pesky Constitution keeps hobbling his ability to act unilaterally. That should provide us some reassurance right there.

And the steam continues to hiss out of Dianne Feinstein’s ears.


16 posted on 06/26/2016 12:44:25 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Lazamataz

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?.”


17 posted on 06/26/2016 12:52:44 PM PDT by wrench
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To: wastoute

They’ll be foreign UN operatives, maybe largely Chinese or Arabic. With heavy arms, night vision, small drone surveillance, etc. and lots of them all over, getting high value targets first. The examples.


18 posted on 06/26/2016 12:54:40 PM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: BitWielder1

“...the criminals and the political class...”

Redundant.


19 posted on 06/26/2016 1:06:15 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Logical me

“They will do by piece meal method, first all automatic weapons?”
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Automatic weapons?


20 posted on 06/26/2016 1:11:12 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban muslims, NOT guns.....Register liberals, NOT guns)
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