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House drops Confederate Flag ban for veterans cemeteries
politico.com ^ | 6/23/16 | Matthew Nussbaum

Posted on 06/23/2016 2:04:08 PM PDT by ColdOne

A measure to bar confederate flags from cemeteries run by the Department of Veterans Affairs was removed from legislation passed by the House early Thursday.

The flag ban was added to the VA funding bill in May by a vote of 265-159, with most Republicans voting against the ban. But Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) both supported the measure. Ryan was commended for allowing a vote on the controversial measure, but has since limited what amendments can be offered on the floor.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 114th; confederateflag; dixie; dixieflag; nevermind; va
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To: DiogenesLamp

:) Yer one of my friends. :)


121 posted on 06/25/2016 11:26:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: rockrr
I keep denying it because there has yet to be offered evidence. Some website opining that it happened means squat. Show me records of sales, inventories, certificates of title and I may believe your claim.

Sure. Let me jump right on that! LOL

There would never be enough evidence for you.

122 posted on 06/25/2016 11:26:22 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Godebert

You are another good man. Proud to know you.


123 posted on 06/25/2016 11:26:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: rockrr; usconservative
Come to GA and I will show you an awesome time.

Tell him, usc.

124 posted on 06/25/2016 11:29:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks for the invite. I’m set to retire in two years and top of my list is to revisit my boyhood home in Huntsville. I may look you up....if CWII doesn’t happen first ;’}


125 posted on 06/25/2016 11:32:56 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m an American Laz and damn proud of it . And I fly MY flag directly at you. Kinda sucks to hear you say this. Always thought of you as a funny guy with your ‘’ I’d hit it’’. Still do. But politics makes for strange situations to say the least.


126 posted on 06/25/2016 11:34:04 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: rockrr

Come and I shall be a gracious host.


127 posted on 06/25/2016 11:40:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: jmacusa

I believe in State Control. That is one of the facets of Southron-ism.

I do not believe AT ALL in the other cause of the Confederacy, which was — I freely admit — slavery. It was an abomination.

However, as I remarked to usconservative today, slavery was on the way out anyways. If the Confederacy had won, industrialization would have made slavery obsolete in 30 years.... and we would have one nation under a Federal-heavy control (the North) and one nation under the more-proper Constitutional State control.

In the long run, the State-heavy version would have shown itself to be a better model.

And slavery would have been a moot point under industrialization.


128 posted on 06/25/2016 11:44:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, with all due respect because you aren’t profanely strident as some others here but the South went to war to preserve slavery. If it had won the war it would have extended slavery to every state in the nation as it had wanted to do in Kansas before the war started. In fact ‘’Bleeding Kansas’ was really where the war started in the first place.


129 posted on 06/25/2016 12:09:20 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Lazamataz

You alright my man

I was at milos burger in north Birmingham yesterday on my way to point clear Alabama for vacation

I have a stars and bars on my wife’s old land cruiser

Along with camp alpine and New Mexico flag and LSU geaux Tigers and roll tide too

Anyhow a man comes in and asks me if that’s my car

Older than me

He shakes my hand and thanks me for keeping the faith

We discuss how were a dying breed and some Trump love

Interesting


130 posted on 06/25/2016 12:14:22 PM PDT by wardaddy (for Muslim wives "no" means anal)
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To: jmacusa
Oh Christ, look what crawled out of the swamp. Oh Yeah Lampster it was about money alright. Money made off the backs of black slaves.

That part is exactly true, but that slave money was going into the pocket of New England Robber Barons.

Notice that 200 million coming from Imports from the North? There is your slave money. They didn't object to the blood money, they objected that the blood money was going to stop. They launched a war to get that blood money back.

Evil Bastards.

131 posted on 06/25/2016 12:22:55 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: jmacusa
Old Dwight was free to think as he did even though he was a Republican. This Republican thinks of The Confederate flag as a flag of treason and separation.

The South was not the entity that broke the founding compact. The Treason to the principle upon which the nation was founded were those Tyrants that fought against independence, unlike our founders who fought for it.

132 posted on 06/25/2016 12:26:49 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Lazamataz
:) Yer one of my friends. :)

I can always use more friends! :)

133 posted on 06/25/2016 12:27:39 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
You've been conned.

You should end all your posts that way, just to let people know what you've done.

134 posted on 06/25/2016 12:29:02 PM PDT by x
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To: jmacusa

No it did not and your BS needs to stop.

It was trade and specifically control of the Mississippi river.


135 posted on 06/25/2016 12:29:23 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: jmacusa
Laz, with all due respect because you aren’t profanely strident as some others here but the South went to war to preserve slavery.

And the North did not go to war to stop it. That's just the propaganda that some rubes are still repeating. They went to war to make sure that if *THEY* couldn't get that slave money, nobody was going to get that slave money.

And that's the plain truth.

Much of the abolitionist support in the north was from workers who didn't like the idea of working for wages in competition with non-paid slaves. It was more of a labor issue to them than it was a give-a-d@mn about the slaves.

136 posted on 06/25/2016 12:33:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: x
You should end all your posts that way, just to let people know what you've done.

You used to put great store in facts as demonstrated by records from the past. I urge you to resume that standard of objectivity.

What does this map tell you?

Where is all the money going?

137 posted on 06/25/2016 12:36:47 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Who is that dude standing there in Clovis with his smartphone?


138 posted on 06/25/2016 12:40:39 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: DiogenesLamp
http://lincolnhome.dcl.niu.edu/remann/pictures/us_1860_totpopden_040201_400.jpg

It tells me that New York had good port and transportation facilities and could send goods cheaply to large numbers of paying customers.

What does this map tell you?

And how about this one?

Bear in mind:

1) A lot of those Southern railroads were on different gauges making through-shipping difficult.

2) A lot of that Southern population wasn't actually paid for their labor in money that they could use to buy things.

139 posted on 06/25/2016 12:46:20 PM PDT by x
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To: x

That map says quite a bit. The Great Lakes manufacturing had to drain to New Orleans. They new what was coming.


140 posted on 06/25/2016 12:56:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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