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Trio arrested at Holland Tunnel were on mission to save girl, friends say
nj,com ^ | June 22, 2016

Posted on 06/22/2016 3:04:54 PM PDT by SMGFan

Friends and family are defending the trio stopped at the Holland Tunnel as they said they headed to rescue a teen girl whose friend died of a heroin overdose.

Being arraigned in court Wednesday in Jersey City, N.J., were John F. Cramsey, 50, owner of Higher Ground Tactical, an indoor shooting range and gun dealership in Upper Milford Township; Dean S. Smith, 53, of Upper Milford Township; and Kimberly Arendt, 29, of Lehighton, Pa.

The trio were on a mission to help a 16-year-old girl they believed was in trouble after a friend overdosed in New York City, according to Cramsey.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crackedwindshield; cramsey; deanssmith; hollandtunnel; johnfcramsey; kimberlyarendt; newjersey; newyork; newyorkcity
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1 posted on 06/22/2016 3:04:54 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

OOOH! Got one of those DANGEROUS gun dealers! No second amendment for YOU!

But why the marijuana?


2 posted on 06/22/2016 3:08:35 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: SMGFan

Interesting!


3 posted on 06/22/2016 3:09:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SMGFan

Confused white people with guns. Its a convenient media narrative and deflection for what happened in Orlando.


4 posted on 06/22/2016 3:09:30 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SMGFan

Stupid people do stupid things. Especially as a gun dealer, they should know the laws and the risks of what they were doing. Besides, where were they planning anyway?!


5 posted on 06/22/2016 3:10:19 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Sharia, No Islam. No Problem. Just say No to Islam. Period.)
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To: SMGFan

They don’t look like Muslims. If they are Christians they will be locked up for a long, long time. If they were Muslims CAIR would have bailed them out by now.


6 posted on 06/22/2016 3:10:20 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: SMGFan

Why drive a van which is so gaudy everyone will notice it! No wonder it caught the eye of the cops.


7 posted on 06/22/2016 3:11:49 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: forgotten man

Add at least 5 years for the .50 caliber bottle opener!


8 posted on 06/22/2016 3:12:51 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: SMGFan

OK I have read the story and I feel for the dude. But I am at a loss on some points. What exactly was his “mission” in New York City. And how do all the guns and the left handed luckies come into it? I don’t want to accuse these people of vigilantism, but if that is what this comes down to they picked two of the worst possible places to try that.

They may actually be lucky they got stopped in New Jersey. If they had crossed the tunnel into New York they would for sure be looking at hard prison time for bringing those kinds of weapons into the state.


9 posted on 06/22/2016 3:13:41 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: SMGFan
rescue a teen girl

They were going to shoot Sport.

10 posted on 06/22/2016 3:13:52 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Reno89519

Delta Farce !


11 posted on 06/22/2016 3:15:36 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: SMGFan

Ludicrous signs all over their jeep and a broken windshield in the most hysterically anti-gun region of the country; what could go wrong?

I love gun owners but do not respect stupid men. And they appear not to be either particularly ethical men, either, sadly.


12 posted on 06/22/2016 3:19:41 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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Yes, and they were ghey and had surrepitious relationships both with the Orlando shooter, Caitlin Jenner, and Trayvon Martin. They were jealous of the big burly men they saw in movies rescuing various damsels through the years and became gender-confused when they saw the shooer’s wife disappear from FBI surveillance. So, they bought 20,000 condoms, a crate of cucumbers, all those weapons, and armor piercing love bullets and scented body armor.


13 posted on 06/22/2016 3:19:57 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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These people might now explain good intentions but I doubt them. Look at their records, plus fighting drugs and all while carrying their own?! And sounds like the business is going under due to exposing employees to lead. They've got problems, now LOTS MORE. Hard to have any sympathy for them. Frustrating that they now get media attention, which undermines defending our 2nd amendment rights and fighting Islam.

I'm still back to my original comment: Stupid. Driving a "look at me!" vehicle filled with items illegal in both New Jersey and New York. It is almost as if they were begging to be arrested. Their intent, taking the law into their own armed hands, only compounds the whole situation.

14 posted on 06/22/2016 3:20:51 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Sharia, No Islam. No Problem. Just say No to Islam. Period.)
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On a mission to save a young girl in New York City.

Taxi Driver, the Sequel...

Are you talking to me Officer?


15 posted on 06/22/2016 3:23:36 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Scandals were Brains, Hillary would be the smartest person on the Planet.)
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To: miss marmelstein; All

The guy lost his daughter to a heroin overdose in Feb 2016. He was not exactly thinking clearly. People need to cut him some slack. Heck, people have vigils for real criminals, this guy ain’t a criminal.


16 posted on 06/22/2016 3:24:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: miss marmelstein

“...I love gun owners but do not respect stupid men....”

Quote of the Day!!! :^)


17 posted on 06/22/2016 3:27:53 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: shotgun
HEY! I got one of those........ Doubles as a corkscrew.


18 posted on 06/22/2016 3:28:40 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The gargoyles have taken over the cathedral.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I loathe our gun laws here in the northeast. But if you travel here, there are many ways to subvert them - mainly by not advertising them as these dopes did.

Please. Grow up and get back to me.


19 posted on 06/22/2016 3:34:13 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: SMGFan

OH goody a vigilante with guns and pot supposedly trying to help an OD....there is much to this that is not being said


20 posted on 06/22/2016 3:34:24 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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