Posted on 06/22/2016 11:27:56 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Clinton IT specialist invokes 5th more than 125 times in deposition | Fox News Catherine Herridge,
Hillary Clinton IT specialist Bryan Pagliano invoked the Fifth more than 125 times during a 90-minute, closed-door deposition Wednesday with the conservative watchdog Judicial Watch, a source with the group told Fox News.
The official said Pagliano was working off an index card and read the same crafted statement each time.
“It was a sad day for government transparency,” the Judicial Watch official said, adding they asked all their questions and Pagliano invoked the Fifth Amendment right not to answer them.
Pagliano was a central figure in the set-up and management of Clinton’s personal server she used exclusively for government business while secretary of state. The State Department inspector general found Clinton violated government rules with that arrangement.
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My guess is that the ‘use immunity” agreement with the DoJ was intentionally extremely narrow, and that the DoJ/FBI made little effort to get the ugliest facts out of Pagliano. They just want to appear to be trying, so as to help Hillary stonewall. If the agreement was the big nothing I suspect, Pagliano would be in legal jeopardy if he actually answered questions at the JW deposition (i.e., questions that the FBI didn’t bother to ask, and that would provide evidence of criminal behavior that would end up on the public record). He would also be in a perjury trap if he gave JW answers in public materially different from those he had given the FBI in secret (not that it would be reveled in ur lifetimes...). It is simply unbelievable that millions of Democrats want this complete criminal as their candidate for President.
Only top executive managers are supposed to have GS-15 ratings. This bum doesn’t seem to have been even a competent IT technician, and apparently did little real work. Just disgusting.
Early on, the Clinton machine claimed Pagliano had been paid by “the Clinton family”. Given their grifter ways, I am almost certain they contrived to make some campaign entity foot the bill, if not the taxpayers. Anything but ay themselves.
Regarding “Positive proof he’s innocent..”
More like he’s hitting the Fifth, “180 Proof” in order not to live under oath but he’s willing to plead guilty to being drunk instead.
Thank you for your learned insight. I have never seen any thing like this. When we lose the FBI to corruption we are very close to revolution, I fear. There are millions of us. This is their problem — not ours.
Has the truth come out on the Kennedy assassination?
Has the truth come out on Bill Clinton's rapes, and sexual harassment's?
Has the truth come out on John McCain?
Has the truth come out on John Kerry?
Has the truth come out on hundreds of Washington "officials"...????
Total Baloney...!!!
Nope. By his misconduct, Detective Fuhrman blew the case against OJ. That clip I posted is absolutely devastating. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with race. It's true that Fuhrman was convicted of lying about his use of the n-word, and that is indeed a racial issue. However, in the clip, he takes the Fifth not about that, but about messing with evidence. Which has absolutely nothing to do with race.
If I had been on the OJ jury, I'd like to think I'd have voted not guilty.
That's because I place a higher value on sanctioning testilying than on punishing murder in the first degree. It's a matter not about crime control but about state power.
Testilying is misconduct by the government. Murder 1 is misconduct by ordinary individuals who do not possess the power of the state. Conservatism is about limits on the power of the government.
I find it amazing that nobody in the Executive, Legislative or Judicial branches of govt can get any answers out of these clowns.
course, hundreds of millions in ill-gotten gains might help. They're ALL corrupt, govt and employees.
Any one of us would have been LONG ago arrested for espionage, but these clowns? naaaaah
This group is worse than EVERY traitor in the history of America!
I wonder, will he end up in a Bathtub bleeding out after he slits his wrists?
Sometimes you just have to do the right thing for the “Family”.
“If I had been on the OJ jury, I’d like to think I’d have voted not guilty.”
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Well, that about says it all, doesn’t it?
Look, you have an utter misunderstanding of the procedural framework which allowed that little legal cheap shot by the esteemed Dean Uelmen to occur. He took advantage of a procedural ruling by the court, as well as his foreknowledge that the officer would “take the 5th” as to AND AND ALL questions asked outside of the jury’s presence at that juncture. Had he asked him “did you kidnap the Lindbergh baby” the answer woulld have been the same.
You also are apparently unaware that this exchange took place OUTSIDE OF THE JURY’S PRESENCE, thus it had no impact on the case, unless the jurors disobeyed the court’s order and used evidence they heard outside the courtroom, saw on t.v., etc. Read this, maybe it will help you understand.
“On the advice of his counsel, Fuhrman said he would invoke the 5th amendment on any question related to the Simpson case.”
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-09-07/news/mn-43219_1_detective-mark-fuhrman
As to your statement that you would have voted n.g., and your stated reason, you again misunderstand. EVEN IF a jury had heard that exchange, they would have been instructed to draw no inference from the invocation of the privilege. So you, being an honest juror would have followed the court’s instruction, and followed the law, and convicted. Unless you were like the 12 who actually heard the case, and acquitted for reasons having nothing to do with the evidence.
I believe his immunity did extend to part of his required testimony in this case. I though the judge ordered him to answer certain questions. My guess is that it came down to the scope of the Fed immunity deal as to which ones he answered and which ones he pled the Fifth.
That instruction applies to defendants' use of the Fifth, not to that of rogue cops acting as witnesses. And, in any case, "instructions" are made to be disobeyed (see below).
So you, being an honest juror would have followed the court’s instruction, and followed the law, and convicted.
A proper juror comes to his own conclusion. Independently of the court. Independently of the law. A juror can find the law guilty, if he feels it is appropriate. If a juror thinks he's being treated as a mushroom, it is his civic duty to give the prosecution a fatal case of Amanita phalloides.
Unless you were like the 12 who actually heard the case, and acquitted for reasons having nothing to do with the evidence.
The jury, as is their role, was looking for reasonable doubt. The prosecution had OJ cold. OJ was almost certainly guilty, and should have been convicted, based on untainted evidence. Except for one thing: what if the "evidence" was tainted? What if the cops tampered with the evidence? Detective Fuhrman in effect admitted that they did so tamper. Enter reasonable doubt.
But other defendants in other cases might actually be innocent, yet have less skilled lawyers than OJ. Hence, the need to punish testilying by springing defendants, guilty or not, wherever it is employed.
You don’t get it, and you won’t get it. You said that “bombshell” of yours blew the case. The jury never heard the “bombshell” of yours, see? The “bombshell” occurred outside the jury’s presence, but you didn’t know that. In addition, your statement about the 5th amendment is also wrong.
Are you familiar with California Jury Instructions, either CALJIC or CALCRIM (they use CALCRIM now, but I believe CALJIC was in use at the time of the trial). If not, do your research and look up the instruction having to do with “jury to draw no inference from invocation of a privilege.” Applies to all witnesses. You are just wrong on this. Again, makes no difference as the JURY didn’t hear the exchange.
I think you’ve watched a good deal of TV on this case, but tv is no substitute for experience.
That in itself was a miscarriage of justice. Judge Ito was an incompetent boob, even if following accepted procedure. If I'm on the jury, and I suspect stuff is being kept from me, I give the benefit of the doubt to the defense! Don't confuse me with facts I can't verify as such!
In addition, your statement about the 5th amendment is also wrong.
Really? Detective Fuhrman was not on trial (yet). He was taking the Fifth regarding OJ, not regarding his own miserable case. The jury was eminently justified in concluding from his taking the Fifth that the prosecution's case against OJ was fatally tainted.
Are you familiar with California Jury Instructions, either CALJIC or CALCRIM (they use CALCRIM now, but I believe CALJIC was in use at the time of the trial).
LOL! As if I give a rat's ass about the People of California or their silly jury rules! California is an open sore upon the United States!
If not, do your research and look up the instruction having to do with “jury to draw no inference from invocation of a privilege.” Applies to all witnesses.
It applies only to the question of whether a witness is guilty or innocent, not to whether the witness's testimony is true or false with respect to a defendant's case. If a copper takes the Fifth regarding a case, whatever evidence he has against a defendant in that case should be disregarded.
Again, makes no difference as the JURY didn’t hear the exchange.
Doesn't matter. The jury didn't see it (they should have), but, reportedly, they were informed of it. In any case, if they even suspected it was being kept from them, it was their duty to acquit!
Congratulations. You have proven yourself to be admittedly, proudly, and willfully ignorant as to the law; unwilling to follow it in any event; and wrong on the main factual premise of your argument.
In other words, you would have fit right in with the jury that heard the Simpson case—they shared each and every one of those attributes as well.
So long, it’s really a waste of time talking to you about this any longer.
Ja wohl!
I thought granted full immunity was what would make him talk.
What I forgot - Hillary has his FBI file, knows where he sleeps (and he HAS to sleep) and as the title of the book says “Hell to Pay!” if you cross HRC. The trail of deceased behind the Clintons didn’t happen by accident...
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