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Rep. Becerra: Congress Should Not Leave Without Voting on No Fly, No Buy
cnsnews.com ^ | 6/15/2016 | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 06/15/2016 9:08:56 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

so how many of the mass murderers were on the no fly list and bought guns before their killings? I’d bet on ZERO


41 posted on 06/15/2016 9:56:06 AM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: rockrr

No....no one ever said how Ted got on the list. Must have been some joke done by Cheney’s people.

Someone brought up some college kid who’d been drunk and disorderly....forced off the plane, and the kid came up later to realize when they mean no-fly....it was absolutely no-fly.

I’m still wondering how guys do a year in prison, get out, and regain their rights (which aren’t supposed to be taken away either). If you ask me....we keep returning to this whole militia thing and the lack of standards written into the situation.


42 posted on 06/15/2016 9:56:29 AM PDT by pepsionice
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You mean due process and all before you somehow show up on the list right? You know like being able to defend yourself.

Exactly.

If the government is going to use the No Fly List in order to deny basic rights, then there has to be due process and rights of appeal for anybody placed on that list.

It should have been that way all along.

43 posted on 06/15/2016 10:06:34 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (New York Senator Kristin Gillibrand will be the next President of the United States)
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This is the slippery slope from the Patriotic Act. Those congresscritters that some foolishly suggest we call are the same ones that “worked across the aisle” to create the no fly list in the first place.

Due process is a principle; politicians only know tactics.


44 posted on 06/15/2016 10:12:02 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: rktman
I've got a better plan. Lets see what the Democrats have to say about the No Fly, No Pray plan. If you are on the No Fly list, then you can't go to any religious service, or read about your religion. So the proposed law would read:

It “Amends the federal criminal code to grant the Attorney General the authority to deny the right to enter a house of worship, or read materials related to religion to any individual if the Attorney General: (1) determines that such individual has been engaged in or has provided material support or resources for terrorist activities associated with religious beliefs, and (2) has a reasonable belief that such individual may use violence in connection with terrorism.”

Seems like this would work better, infringe less people's rights, and be targeted to the real problem of radicalization by religious extremists. And note that it doesn't discriminate against any religion.

Of course it is just as unconstitutional as the proposed law related to firearms.

45 posted on 06/15/2016 10:19:49 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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LOL! There ‘should’ be due process but the govt has gotten so far away from caring about citizens rights, they’ll do as they please.


46 posted on 06/15/2016 10:20:54 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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You're being denied the purchase of a gun.

No different than being denied the right to buy a book, or attend a church service, or write a newspaper article, or give a speech.

47 posted on 06/15/2016 10:21:16 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: arthurus

Thank you for that lesson.


48 posted on 06/15/2016 10:32:46 AM PDT by deweyfrank (Nobody's Perfect)
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To: rktman

Was the Orlando shooter on the no fly list ?


49 posted on 06/15/2016 11:03:04 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: rktman

Are the criteria for denying approval for purchase now under current law narrow enough to prohibit denial for being on the no fly list? I know people who have been denied for false positives and they have never been able to get off the list. Can’t say how hard they tried, but they are still denied.


50 posted on 06/15/2016 11:07:58 AM PDT by IamConservative (There is no greater threat to our freedoms than Bipartisanship.)
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