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Trump meeting with NRA about not allowing people on "terror watch lists" to buy guns
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump ^ | June 15, 2016 | Tweeter

Posted on 06/15/2016 7:20:03 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: freeandfreezing

Very good points, but what would be an example of such a law?

Radical Islam is responsible for ‘incubating and hatching’ Islamic terrorists, yet they are untouchable unless it can be shown directly they gave orders in a crime.

Radical Islamicists are like viral pathogens that hide out in healthy cells making them impossible to eliminate without damaging the health of the host. Our Constitution does now allow for damaging healthy segments of society unless Martial Law is imposed and rights are suspended. Radical Islam knows this and they know it leads to a decline in the influence of the West, which is their goal.

Perhaps a RICO type of law can be crafted that will take down the hierarchy of Radical Islam and at the same time pass Constitutional reviews.

As for cultural transformation and pacification of Muslims, it has been shown to be possible in history. Mustafa Ataturk succeeded in the first half of the 20th Century in imposing a secular society among a Muslim population making the radical parts of the doctrine of Islam become an internal battle within one’s ‘soul’, so that for example notions of killing the ‘infidels’ were to be interpreted as killing the infidel inside one’s own personal spirit and never to be directed outward. To implement such a transformation, Ataturk had to be a brutal dictator, but he was successful.

To adapt an Ataturk type policy under the US Constitution, first a RICO-like statute crafted to take down Radical Islam could be followed by a mandated reform of Muslim communities, under a basis that their religious sects have histories of organized violence. Such a mandate could be crafted after the 1965 Voting Rights Act with one major difference, that there would be provisions for the States in addition to the federal government to retain the right to execute the reform mandate themselves to assure the safety and security of all their communities. Because we have clearly seen how the Left or the GOP Establishment will intentionally and deliberately fail to enforce laws they don’t like, thus leaving states without recourse. This may require a Constitutional Amendment that gives states the power to check the federal government by convening a 30-state majority to quash any law, ruling, policy of the federal government by voiding and repealing specific federal statutes or provisions therein. Such an amendment could respect the supremacy of laws of Congress by stating that a failure to quash indicates supremacy and to draw a clear distinction that such an amendment, when exercised allows for Congress to rewrite its laws in agreement with 41% (21 states) of state legislatures.


101 posted on 06/15/2016 10:29:42 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Biggirl
This is not a good idea by Trump. Even discussing additional unconstitutional gun restrictions after Orlando provides the validation and cover the left is seeking. It is a MUSLIM problem, not a gun problem!
102 posted on 06/15/2016 10:35:31 AM PDT by suijuris
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To: dfwgator
The media is practically saying that Christians were responsible for Orlando.

Practically?! The are flat out saying that. It’s mind boggling!

103 posted on 06/15/2016 10:54:07 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: dfwgator

Had to block a friend on Facebook the other day. He posted something about the shooting along with a bunch of Tweets posted by idiots saying that the dead got what they deserved for being gay. Then he and a couple of others went on rants against Christians. He deleted a post that was actually factual and was pointing fingers in the correct direction and said “I will not allow any Islamophobic posts!”

Oh, the hypocrisy! Blind fools.


104 posted on 06/15/2016 10:57:31 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: NKP_Vet
NRA will hopefully tell Trump if this is what he wants they are withdrawing their endorsement. Trump is caving to the RINOs.

I don't believe Trump is 'caving to the RINOs' at all. This is the kind of thing you get when you have someone without a solid core political philosophy. Expediency rules the day.

105 posted on 06/15/2016 10:58:23 AM PDT by zeugma (Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
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To: zeugma
So, Jihadi Mohammad who is on the FBI Jihadi Watch list for communicating with ISIS for over three years, goes to a Jihadist Mosque, tells everybody who will listen that he worships ISIS, he should be able to buy gun? Why? How does that Watch List stop you and me from buying a guy?
106 posted on 06/15/2016 11:04:42 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Paulie
What is preventing this from happening now?
107 posted on 06/15/2016 11:07:58 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Ransomed
I have to agree with you. The Obama Administration and completely corrupted this country and it is now a Banana Republic. There is no Rule of Law.
108 posted on 06/15/2016 11:09:45 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: zeugma
I rescind my prior post to you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3440381/posts?page=108#108

109 posted on 06/15/2016 11:11:05 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

No worries.

Personally I think the ‘no fly’ list should have been struck down as unconstitutional a long time ago for a myriad of reasons.


110 posted on 06/15/2016 11:34:52 AM PDT by zeugma (Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
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To: Chgogal

What is preventing this from happening now?
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Good question. It’s not the Republican controlled Congress, that’s for sure.


111 posted on 06/15/2016 5:56:55 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: NKP_Vet

>We are happy to meet with Donald Trump. The NRA’s position on this issue has not changed. The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.) and a majority of the U.S. Senate. Sadly, President Obama and his allies would prefer to play politics with this issue.

The key sentence here is this:

>At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed.

The problem is that ordinary voters think the NRA’s stance is that terrorists should get full-auto 20mm cannons. If only we had a presidential candidate with a big enough spotlight and social media following to draw attention to the NRA’s actual position and blow the Dem’s right out of the water

Oh wait a second...


112 posted on 06/15/2016 9:52:21 PM PDT by ksm1
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