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Oh, The Orlando Killer Didn't Use An AR-15 Rifle...
Townhall.com ^ | June 14, 2016 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 06/14/2016 11:55:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

Folks—the demonization of the AR-15 rifle has begun in the media. The usual talking points about its lethality, its rate of fire, and its scariness are coursing through the veins of the anti-gun Left following the Orlando attack. Omar Mateen committed the worst mass shooting in U.S. history on Sunday morning, which will likely be reclassified as a terrorist attack, when he murdered 49 people at a gay nightclub (Pulse). As Bob Owens and Streiff noted at Bearing Arms and RedState respectively, Mateen didn’t use an AR-15 rifle, but the media has a narrative to dole out (via CBS News):

A law enforcement source said that the shooting suspect legally purchased recently the two weapons used in the attack at the shooting center in Port St. Lucie near his Fort Pierce home. He had a Glock 17 handgun purchased on June 5, a Sigsauer MCX assault rifle purchased on June 4 on his person during the shootout, and investigators later found a .38-caliber weapon in his vehicle.

Owens noted that the rifle Mateen bought “has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape, or form”:

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

This of course will make no difference at all to the anti-gun politimedia, who don’t particularly care about factual accuracy and who likely wouldn’t be able to tell an AR-15 from a toaster oven if their lives depended on it.

Via Streiff, the purpose of the narrative is to clear a path for its prohibition for civilian use:

Now this Sig is every bit as dangerous as an AR-15. It is sold in a semi-auto version to sportsmen and in full automatic by assorted special operations forces worldwide. The point is that it is not an AR-15 and no one, other than the media, ever claimed it was an AR-15. In fact, there is no humanly possible way it could be mistaken for an AR-15. This is not a mistake. This is a narrative. It is designed to build a consensus that the AR-15 is uniquely dangerous and contrive to outlaw it. Once that is accomplished the cry will be raised to outlaw similar weapons.

This is a Sig Sauer MCX Carbine:

We must remain vigilant. We must fight back against this narrative, but as of right now—a new ban on so-called assault weapons isn’t going to happen, folks. That could change if we lose to Hillary Clinton in November, and if Republicans lose the Senate. The Second Amendment is on the ballot. Choose wisely—and by wisely I mean, saying “hell no” to Clinton.

Our sister site, Bearing Arms, will have a more detailed post about the difference between the two rifles later today. Stay tuned.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; ar15; banglist; demagogicparty; election2016; guncontrol; guncontroldebate; mcx; mcxcarbine; memebuilding; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; secondamendment; sigsauer; sigsauermcxcarbine; trump
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1 posted on 06/14/2016 11:55:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The weapon that the orlando killer used was islam.


2 posted on 06/14/2016 11:56:52 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Kaslin

That’s a beaut.


3 posted on 06/14/2016 11:59:46 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m not going to quibble over the model/variant because gun banners won’t stop at a single model. The last time, they set the terms when they defined “assault weapon” and listed features.

They want your guns. All of them. I’ll stick to the larger argument and avoid ceding ANY ground.


4 posted on 06/14/2016 12:01:15 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Kaslin

many videos have been released to news media. There is very rapid gun fire heard.

I am no gun expert, but I do recall that sportsman models have limiters to full auto fire.

If that is so, then what we are hearing is 1)an illegally modified rifle and/or 2)SWAT firing back.

Your thoughts??


5 posted on 06/14/2016 12:02:29 PM PDT by llevrok (Lies are born the moment someone thinks the truth is dangerous.)
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To: Kaslin
Owens noted that the rifle Mateen bought “has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape, or form”:

What?

It's my understanding that the MCX lower receiver is completely interchangeable with almost any (or maybe any) AR-15 upper receivers.

6 posted on 06/14/2016 12:03:36 PM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Kaslin

Looks like and AK74 to me (using the MSM’s criteria) - and since when have they ever had a weapons expert? Self proclaimed yeah, but a real one?


7 posted on 06/14/2016 12:06:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Kaslin
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Oh, did we mention the BITTER LITTLE WEENIE in the White House?


8 posted on 06/14/2016 12:06:55 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Kaslin

You’re too KIND to the Urinalists.


9 posted on 06/14/2016 12:07:46 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: longfellow
And for your viewing pleasure: Sig Sauer MCX


10 posted on 06/14/2016 12:07:53 PM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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It's my understanding that the MCX lower receiver is completely interchangeable with almost any (or maybe any) AR-15 upper receivers.

I just looked, you can put the MCX upper on any AR-15 Mil-Spec lower. Not sure if the reverse is true. The site doesn't mention that.

11 posted on 06/14/2016 12:09:57 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Veni accipe eam.)
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To: Perseverando

Wow... I’m actually sporting a woody...


12 posted on 06/14/2016 12:10:00 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012 (q15.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

“Assault weapon” has a kickback associated with it after the Dems can waxed over the worthless ban. Demonizing the AR-15 gets camel’s nose into the tent so to speak.


13 posted on 06/14/2016 12:10:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Kaslin

Damn communists MSM and the communists Democrats will do anything to destroy our right to own this beautiful gun, the AR-15.

Trump for President.


14 posted on 06/14/2016 12:11:47 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

“Wow... I’m actually sporting a woody..”

Remember, the police use these assault weapons more than anyone. When the government comes to kill citizens for whatever reason, it brings heavy firepower.


15 posted on 06/14/2016 12:12:37 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

It needs an adapter to put the mcx upper on the AR lower.


16 posted on 06/14/2016 12:13:32 PM PDT by glock rocks (I'll be glad when the election is over, so FReepers can get back to discussing politics ...)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I just looked, you can put the MCX upper on any AR-15 Mil-Spec lower. Not sure if the reverse is true. The site doesn't mention that.

I may be having a senior moment, so I will have to recheck my info. However I believe you are spot on about the Sig upper working with AR lowers.

17 posted on 06/14/2016 12:13:38 PM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: IYAS9YAS; Perseverando
Not sure if the reverse is true. The site doesn't mention that.

After looking at more pics, nope, you can't put an AR upper on the Sig MCX lower, no buffer tube accommodation, and the lower appears to have a mount for a swing-away stock where the hole for the buffer tube mount would be on the AR lower.

18 posted on 06/14/2016 12:13:56 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Veni accipe eam.)
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To: glock rocks
It needs an adapter to put the mcx upper on the AR lower.

Thanks! I saw that it said it was "backward compatible" with any Mil-Spec AR lower, but wasn't sure what was necessary to backwardly compat it. ;-)

19 posted on 06/14/2016 12:15:20 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Veni accipe eam.)
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To: Kaslin

All Islamists are equipped with fully automatic AK-47s. Even the kids have them.


20 posted on 06/14/2016 12:16:28 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Hillary is Satan's spiritual advisor.)
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