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1 posted on 06/08/2016 1:29:44 PM PDT by Theoria
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Interesting.

For decades states have gotten away with this using the doctrine of implied consent. If you apply for a drivers license it is “implied” that you are also consenting to a breath test.

Since this kid was a passenger his consent cannot be “implied” from anything. This looks like one of those cases that could tie our entire court system in knots for the next 13 years.


2 posted on 06/08/2016 1:32:55 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Largely a result of the idiocy of treating 18-20 year olds as though they were minors regarding alcohol, but adults regarding everything else.


4 posted on 06/08/2016 1:36:40 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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Good on this kid for refusing a breathlyzer test while being driven as a passenger in someone else's car. Thuggish statists come in all shapes, colors, and sizes.

5 posted on 06/08/2016 1:37:07 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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The girl may have a point. This will give her a guaranteed A+ Term Paper, especially if she doesn’t have to pay that ticket. She’ll be a High School Hero! Just don’t lord it over every cop you encounter.


6 posted on 06/08/2016 1:42:41 PM PDT by lee martell
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In NY you tell the cop NO. And you get a fine and you get your insurance bumped. But it is NOT a DWI conviction. Lawyers here tell you NOT to submit to tests.


8 posted on 06/08/2016 1:43:26 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Probable cause? Was she visibly intoxicated or smelling of alcohol? Then no warrant is required IIRC. Your mileage may vary.


9 posted on 06/08/2016 1:43:41 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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The police are always right

or something.


10 posted on 06/08/2016 1:43:43 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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"This particular officer is notorious for intimidating kids

There are more than a few of these cops who think they can run rough shod over kids. A friend's son was a passenger in a car that was pulled over for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. The cop gave them both tickets. The 16 year old passenger didn't have his drivers license on him so he showed his military ID from his dad. The cop said he asked for his drivers license, the kid didn't have it so blam! a ticket for improper ID. What the heck, the kid wasn't driving. The dad had to take off work to challenge it.

16 posted on 06/08/2016 1:47:59 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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That is not how the criminal justice system works

correction; it does now. She's lucky this POS cop didn't do a body cavity check on her for drugs. Or should I say, the cop is lucky, in this case.

18 posted on 06/08/2016 1:49:37 PM PDT by drypowder
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I had a personal meeting with Grosse Ile supervisor Brian Loftus in 2009 about this very subject. US District Judge Lawton (Eastern Michigan) had already ruled these actions unconstitutional. I advised him bad law enforced by zealots was a bad mix and eventually he would be sued. I could go on at great length however I don’t wish to boor. This is what Jen Granholm and the Democrats thought was a good idea back in 2004.


19 posted on 06/08/2016 1:51:16 PM PDT by Rhino54
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Here is a better one. You are a passenger in a car when the driver gets pulled over. You are over 21, and you have been out drinking and your driver is the designated sober driver. the cop ask you to step out of the car, when you do, he arrest you for public intoxication. As long as you are in the car, no violation exist, but, the moment you step out, you are in public.


23 posted on 06/08/2016 2:04:56 PM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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You go, girl!


25 posted on 06/08/2016 2:11:21 PM PDT by PGR88
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The courts have already ruled i favor or warrantless searches.
We have DUI check points regularly in Pennsylvania. If you turn off to avoid the wait because you are on your way to work or on your way home from work and tired, too bad, you get arrested for “avoiding the checkpoint” Don’t drink at all. Doesn’t matter. You still get checked.


34 posted on 06/08/2016 3:16:23 PM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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She won’t win this one

Worse she was probably drinking under aged and just doesn’t want the consequences


36 posted on 06/08/2016 3:37:36 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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