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Vietnam breaks up protests as anger seethes over fish deaths
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 6/4/16 | AFP

Posted on 06/05/2016 3:01:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Dozens of activists were detained in Vietnam's two biggest cities Sunday as they tried to hold protests calling for greater government transparency over a recent spate of mass fish deaths.

Tonnes of dead fish and other marine life began washing up on central Vietnamese shores two months ago and continued to appear for two to three weeks, sparking widespread anger.

Frustration has been further fuelled by a perceived lack of clarity from the communist leadership about what caused the deaths.

Major streets in central Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City were temporarily deserted on Sunday morning as security forces blanketed the area.

Activists used social media accounts to document many arrests, saying people had been detained in both cities either before or while they joined protests.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: anger; china; fish; protests; southchinasea; vietnam
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every where Obammy goes, riots and chaos follow.

Coinkydence?

Who was that little bad luck fellar that followed Superman around.. Joe BlhkT*pflk or sumthin'.. ?? always had an umbrella and a dark cloud over head.

Some comics script themselves..

1 posted on 06/05/2016 3:01:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 06/05/2016 3:02:38 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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3 posted on 06/05/2016 3:04:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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Taiwanese conglomerate Formosa, which runs a steel mill in the Phu Loc district where the fish have died, is widely suspected of being the cause of the mass deaths.

4 posted on 06/05/2016 3:06:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

When you buy frozen fish in a store often the country of origin is Vietnam. I am willing to bet that radiation fro Fukishima is in part to blame.


5 posted on 06/05/2016 3:06:16 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: LukeL
When you buy frozen fish in a store often the country of origin is Vietnam. I am willing to bet that radiation fro Fukishima is in part to blame.

Read and learn....

6 posted on 06/05/2016 3:08:04 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

They don’t require country of origin labeling on fish products, but on produce they do. Everything about this devious Obama administration is political, health be damned. Do not buy swai or basa fish.


7 posted on 06/05/2016 3:19:24 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: NormsRevenge

I think the character you’re thinking of was in “Lil Abner?”

The Joe with the unpronounceable last name was an enemy of Superman, I think!


8 posted on 06/05/2016 3:29:08 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: LukeL

“I am willing to bet that radiation fro Fukishima is in part to blame.”

Given the amount of radiation washed into the PACIFIC OCEAN, and the prevailing winds and currents, I’ll take that bet.


9 posted on 06/05/2016 3:34:50 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Charlie don’t fish.


10 posted on 06/05/2016 3:35:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge

11 posted on 06/05/2016 3:37:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: LukeL

Fukushima was five years ago.

Why is this only (apparently) happening now?


12 posted on 06/05/2016 3:39:27 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: VanShuyten

The Pacific Ocean currents passing Japan go to California before they get to the vicinity of Viet Nam.

I haven’t heard of any massive fish kills washing-up on the shores of California.


13 posted on 06/05/2016 3:42:30 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: LukeL
I am willing to bet that radiation fro Fukishima is in part to blame.

There wasn't even enough radiation washed into the ocean off the coast of Japan to cause major fish kills right after the incident; after 5 years of dilution across the entire ocean, it's unlikely there is anything more than a background level of radiation in those fish.

The fish could have been killed by some pollutant. Or they could have been killed by an algae bloom. Or some microorganism might be causing a fatal disease. It is impossible to know without testing both the water and the fish.

14 posted on 06/05/2016 3:43:36 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

We’re both half right!
From Wiki;
“Joe Btfsplk was a character in the satirical comic strip Li’l Abner by cartoonist Al Capp (1909–1979). He is well-meaning, but is the world’s worst jinx, bringing disastrous misfortune to everyone around him. A small, dark rain cloud perpetually hovers over his head to symbolize his bad luck. Hapless Btfsplk and his ever-present cloud became one of the most iconic images in Li’l Abner.[1]”


15 posted on 06/05/2016 3:50:00 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: exDemMom

For the past 5 years, tons of radioactive waste have been washing into the Pacific daily. The radioactive cores of 3 nuclear powerplants melted through their containment (and some fuel was simply blown out there during the explosions). The radioactive cores are being “cooled” with water but water has to go somewhere. No one is sure exactly where the cores are except they are not contained but are “somewhere” under the nuclear power plant structures and that wells in the vicinity have spiked upwards with high amounts of radioactive waste.
Now, for the rest of my life, and the lives of others, the groundwater under Fukushima will be washing nuclear fuel into the pacific. The concentration is increasing on a daily basis. No one can stop it. That’s why insurance companies won’t insure nuclear power plants and instead governments do - when it gets out of control, there’s no cleanup possible. And then, because governments have no intention of spending a dime on damages, there are false assurances that all is well, situation normal etc.
It’s not logical to think that the “whole ocean” is diluting the radiation - the material is heavy and is carried on currents and trapped in the bodies of marine life so it’s not evenly distributed but becomes concentrated in various areas.
It takes awhile for it to become concentrated in the food web. The first level might be seaweed which is eaten by urchins (which concentrate the radioactive waste) which are eaten by other animals - each level of the food web, the waste is more concentrated.
There have been reports of animal die offs that defy historical precedence all along the west coast of the US.
What was thought to be known about currents has been updated by the detection of radiation moving at rates and routes not previously anticipated.
I don’t know if the Vietnam problem is related - but I do think it’s likely. It has taken time for currents to carry materials, food webs to concentrate it, and ground water to continue to pour toxins into the ocean.
Some of the illnesses that can cause die offs (algal blooms or viral diseases) may be caused by radioactive wastes. Living organisms exposed to radiation can experience suppressed immune systems and therefore die of diseases they would otherwise resist and recover from.


16 posted on 06/05/2016 4:06:23 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: LukeL

Fish killed by radiation would show a greater than background radiation level, Easily detected. What is much more likely is some toxic output from the steel factory. Toxins from that kind of operation are more difficult to identify.


17 posted on 06/05/2016 4:06:51 PM PDT by markearl
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18 posted on 06/05/2016 4:09:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: LukeL

Maybe they’re just pining for the fjords.


19 posted on 06/05/2016 4:14:17 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: DuncanWaring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2tIAx8kUIA&feature=youtu.be&t=3465

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2tIAx8kUIA&feature=youtu.be&t=885

http://www.kptv.com/story/26142551/millions-of-dead-anchovies-wash-ashore-in-oregon-coast-town

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Thousands-of-Dead-Anchovies-in-Santa-Cruz-Harbor-Prompts-Emergency-Declaration-269472141.html

http://www.kionrightnow.com/news/local-news/thousands-of-sardines-and-pastelike-substance-washes-up-in-capitola/27165030

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/general-news/20140502/domoic-acid-behind-health-warnings-a-marine-mystery

http://www.cbs8.com/story/21840275/seaworld-rescues-9-more-sea-lions-this-weekend

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/01/local/la-me-stranded-sea-lions-20130402

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/toxic-algae-bloom-in-pacific-ocean-could-be-largest-ever/

They can attribute die-offs to algal blooms but can’t explain the algal blooms. Lots of whale strandings - emaciated whales.


20 posted on 06/05/2016 4:19:53 PM PDT by ransomnote
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