Posted on 05/29/2016 12:40:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
An engineer stands next to a Hellenic Air Force C-130 HAUP aircraft at the 133rd Hellenic Air Force Base in Kasteli on the island of Crete, Greece, May 20, 2016. The plane is participating in a search operation for the missing EgyptAir flight 804 Airbus A320. Credit: Stefanos Rapanis/REUTERS
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Not sure what (besides this graphic and caption, which isn't) was AP, so I quoted nothin'.
No Terrorist Groups Took Credit for Downing EgyptAir Flight 804. So Experts Have Other Theories
http://time.com/4349687/egyptair-flight-804-bomb-isis-al-qaeda/
Smoke Alerts Like That on Flight 804 Have Raised Questions in the Past
http://www.wsj.com/articles/smoke-alerts-like-that-on-flight-804-have-raised-questions-in-the-past-1464390994
Rep. Ed Royce: ‘Highly Likely’ Terror Behind EgyptAir Flight 804 Crash
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-ed-royce-highly-terror-egyptair-flight-804/story?id=39288076
Yoda, this headline is written by, I think.
Investigators Race to Find EgyptAir Jet’s Black Boxes [5-27]
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/middleeast/egyptair-flight-804-black-boxes.html?_r=0
EgyptAir Flight 804’s black box will run out of battery unless investigators track it down within days [5-28]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/egyptair-flight-804s-black-box-8072921
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Experts fear doomed EgyptAir MS804 ‘downed by laptop bomb’ like one used by militants on Daallo Airlines plane
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/experts-fear-doomed-egyptair-ms804-8050375
EgyptAir Flight Data Shows Smoke Detected in Bathroom Before Crash: Report
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3432450/posts
Islamic State militants statement claims bomb downed EgyptAir from Paris
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3431964/posts
My guess is it was a trial run. Much like Phil Airlines bombing many years ago.
Could be. Any kind of pilot measures taken because of a smoke alarm wouldn't cause the plane to disintegrate and/or make those thre wild, terminal moves (90 left, 360 to the right, plummet to the sea). Something seriously bad was done to the plane, and given the altitude, it had to have been a bomb.
The search radius was reported to be 3 miles now, so, not bad. Once they’ve got more than one surface ship (preferably three), the triangulation will not take long.
The first report was about debris being found from the aircraft, followed by a correction that it was not from the aircraft. I’m not sure how many days went by until debris from the aircraft WAS found, but it has now been confirmed by Egypt.
The debris field was reported early on as being 40 miles in length, and an oil slick found, was reported to be a mile in width, apparently drifting 90 degrees to the debris field’s direction. I’ve not heard of any more debris being found, and no talk about the veracity of the debris field find and it being 40 miles long, which I suppose... would disperse over time anyway.
After saying the plane did a 90 degree turn to the right, and a 360 degree turn to the left, then descended to 15,000’ finally disappearing from radar- a recent report said Egyptian authorities said the plane did not do a 90, or a 360, but simply vanished off radar at 37,000’.
I was skeptical when they said they had found the ping from the flight data recorder... expecting a retraction in the next day or two. Apparently the ping find is accurate info. The search size was reported to be the size of Connecticut, and now, it’s a 3 square mile area.
On earlier threads I mentioned that the 3-4 second data ping from this flight was similar to the blip of data sent out from the space shuttle as it catastrophically disintegrated.
I’m fairly sure a bomb’s explosion would set off a smoke alarm, just the same as a more conventional cause, like an electrical fire would. The fact that a final stream of data was sent back over a few seconds, lends itself to a catastrophic event having occurred, rather than a fire that would likely indicate telemetry to the ground for minutes. That the Egyptians are saying the data ended at 37,000, is even more of an indication of catastrophic disintegration.
I can see it taking a few weeks to analyze the data but not months.
In the past the investigation would be stalled for almost a year, but that went out the window when the German co-pilot deliberately crashed the plane.
Shortly after the black boxes were found and examined, it was quickly leaked the co-pilot did it, and had locked the Capt. out of the cockpit.
I wouldn't be surprised here that if the Egyptian airplane black boxes show it was brought down by a bomb, that is will be leaked out immediately, and it won't take months. -Tom
Whoops, sorry, I clipped your name for another topic reply, please ignore that.
Some debris found early on was just random crap, unrelated to the plane — but I’d guess that the 40 mile figure was obtained by including that, and probably other junk.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Egypt has hired a recovery company to help find EgyptAir Flight 804's wreckage and black boxes in an area of the Mediterranean Sea narrowed down to about 3 miles wide. The country's civil-aviation ministry signed up Deep Ocean Search Ltd., according to French authorities, Bloomberg News reported. A DOS vessel will join the Laplace, a French Navy ship headed to the crash site carrying a long-range acoustic system. The ship was due to arrive Sunday or Monday. Searchers hope to pick up telltale "pings" from the doomed Airbus A320's flight data and cockpit voice recorders -- also known as the black boxes, which are actually painted orange. European and US satellites detected signals from the plane shortly after it disappeared from radar on May 19 with 66 people aboard, according to the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. DOS has recovered precious metals from a ship that sunk during World War II in the Atlantic Ocean at a depth of about 17,000 feet, their Web site boasts. The area where Flight 804 went down is believed to be more than 9,800 feet deep. Egypt's civil-aviation minister Sherif Fathi has said he believes terrorism is a more likely explanation than equipment failure. No group has claimed responsibility.
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