Posted on 05/21/2016 1:28:34 PM PDT by tellw
Data from the final moments before EgyptAir flight MS804 crashed into the Mediterranean suggest an "internal explosion" tore through the right side of the aircraft, a pilot said last night.
Investigators trying to determine whether the A320 was brought down by terrorism or a technical fault are poring over a series of warnings indicating smoke filled the cabin shortly before it disappeared from radar.
French authorities confirmed that smoke detectors went off aboard the flight a few minutes before it crashed but said it was not clear what caused the smoke or fire.
A commercial pilot with a major European airline told The Telegraph that other parts of the data log suggested that windows in the right side of the cockpit were blown out by an explosion inside the aircraft.
"It looks like the right front and side window were blown out, most probably from inside out," said the pilot, who flies an A330 similar to the crashed A320 and spoke on condition of anonymity.
The data was taken from the plane's Acars system, which sends short transmissions from the aircraft to receivers on the ground.
Until investigators find the aircraft's black boxes, which are still missing in the Mediterannean, the Acars offers the best sens on what was happening aboard.
Three different warnings showed there were faults in the windows next to the co-pilot, suggesting they could have been blasted outwards by an onboard bomb. That does not mean the explosion came from the cockpit but indicates the right side of the plane was more badly damaged than the left.
The pilot suggested the smoke detectors may have been triggered not fire but by fog which filled the cabin as it lost air pressure in the moments after the explosion
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I see A need to pat down more business men, pretty girls, old grandmas, kids and nuns.
Don’t look at that dark skinned Middle Eastern man or burka clad woman!
“IN PRINCIPLE” this may be to keep the Slammie set from using such folks as mules.
But again, somehow Israel’s El Al has managed to avoid such problems, having suffered only one terrorist related downing in its entire multi-decade business life, and that was related to a bomb brought on by a mule.
Have you seen anything about plane parts being found yet that are positive for an explosion? Or are they still basing any and all theories based on all the sensor data that was going off? You know?
No news like that has crossed my view. It may be that a blasting material was chosen which would be washed away by the immersion in the ocean. So nobody could know except by suspicion of substances of that kind.
Or it could be that all the “experts” are just assuming all those sensors were sending back valid data. I’ve yet to see even a hint of a discussion about the possibility that the plane was hacked via satellite. Or even by a passenger and his laptop. Malware that can hack cars and pacemakers and insulin pumps is now common knowledge; not the actual knowledge but the fact that it can be done.
Even if this has already happened on airliners, that kind of information would be held as tightly as the Roswell, NM incident. Otherwise, the entire airline industry would collapse overnight. We would never hear about it.
Wait until the radical Islamist perfect the surgically implanted bombs. They will look like an arm bone or a stomach with a full meal (or both), but be strong enough to take down an airplane. How about those apples?
A bim?
Does your dog bite?
That...is not my dog.
Looks like Trump will be proven right.
>Looks like Trump will be proven right.
Even on the Liberal hellhole that is reddit, the phrase Trump is right is repeated a lot.
I visited Reddit today and in r/politics they mentioned Trump had passed Sanders in their numbers for search queries :)
Beat me to it! ;)
No...
Trump said it.
I believe it.
That settles it.
;)
A bomb of sufficient capacity under the cockpit, in the avionics bay, could have blown the entire nose off of the aircraft. The space shuttle disintegrated, and the telemetry to indicate any such scenario occurred, was but a brief pulse of data, just like this 3-4 second burst of information.
The bomb’s location wouldn’t have to be confined to the cockpit. It certainly could have been placed there though, and not necessarily by the pilots. Ground crews: maintenance, service, cleaning, etc.
Any of the 85,000 could have interacted with someone who DID have access to restricted parts of the airport. If there was a bomb planted, you have to look at all possible chains of custody. It could have gone through several pairs of hands before being planted on the plane.
In Feb 2016, a laptop bomb was smuggled aboard an Airbus A320 in Somalia. A passenger set it off, blowing a hole in the side of the plane that sucked them out. Despite the damage, the plane managed to land.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/africa/somalia-airplane-explosion/
The Egyptian A320 was in Eritrea (near Somalia) the morning of the crash. Maybe the pilot picked up a laptop bomb and carried it aboard. They don’t check pilots that thoroughly.
Sensors on the Egyptian A320 showed smoke and things failing in the cockpit and nearby restroom. A suicidal pilot could have brought a bomb on board.
“As the Wizards of Smart told us all week, “Donald Trump, jumped the gun in saying this was probably a terrorist attack. We really need a cool calm collected pResident. One like cool, calm, collected pResident nObama.””
even funnier, was Trump’s remark to the enemedia when they attacked him for declaring probably terrorism, namely, “Why don’t you ask Hillary what she thinks happened to that airplane?”, which then FORCED Hillary too to declare it was probably terrorism. Of course, the enemedia didn’t attack Hillary for saying that, just Trump. But he did force her hand (once again).
Trump’s pulling Hillary’s strings like she’s a puppet.
Remember Occam's Razor - the most simple explanation is the most likely. ("among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.")
Pilot or co-pilot goes all jihadi, wrestles with other pilot for control on the aircraft (wild flight maneuvering), sane pilot or air marshal shoots at loony pilot, hitting the cockpit window behind him. Window blows out, aircraft depressurizes, cabin air moisture condenses, etc, etc.
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