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California Senate Outlaws 'Bullet Buttons,' Other Gun Control Measures
NBC Bay Area ^ | May 19, 2016 | JONATHAN J. COOPER

Posted on 05/19/2016 1:54:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The California Senate voted on Thursday to outlaw the sale of assault rifles with easily detachable ammunition magazines known as bullet buttons.

The measure is among a wide-ranging slate of gun control bills that is being debated as some Democratic leaders rushed to head off a ballot measure advocated by Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom.

All 11 measures would significantly tighten California's gun laws, which are already among the strictest in the nation. The measures then will head to the state Assembly.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcbayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california
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To: nickcarraway

How do you know that? Wasn’t Trump strongly in favor of gun control before last June?


Because I can tell you with 100% certainty what a hillary presidency will

mean for the supreme court.


41 posted on 05/19/2016 3:41:41 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Advil000
"Excuse me Mr. Intruder while I go and find a tool which fits into my bullet button. Then we can resume activities"


42 posted on 05/19/2016 3:47:00 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Kla Ha Ya

Even if old uncle Jerry doesn’t sign these bills into law, our next gov Gavin

Newsom will.

He’s the driving force behind the “safety for all” gun reform initiative. He’s

all for gun control. When Gavin becomes gov and all we have to turn to is

a Hillary Clinton stacked SC where will we turn?


43 posted on 05/19/2016 3:48:36 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Kla Ha Ya

Smart dude!


44 posted on 05/19/2016 3:51:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: nickcarraway

Quibble and dance all you want: Trump or Hillary”


45 posted on 05/19/2016 3:51:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: nickcarraway

I hate to sound malicious but the fact is I live in Texas, my son said the other night someone walked through the front gate on the deck and into the front door. He said he was big where he had to duck down walking in the door. He pulled a 9mm and backed him out of the house. It’s funny, he said, “I don’t want to shoot you and have the cops come.” Also funny was he told my son, “thanks for not shooting me” as he left.


46 posted on 05/19/2016 3:52:07 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Undecided 2012

Another thing he said was, we have a dobie on a runner outside there and she didn’t make a peep He said, “I don’t even know why I feed that btch.” She obviously gave no warning of an intruder. I expect much more from my outside dogs.


47 posted on 05/19/2016 3:59:30 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Undecided 2012

It’s actually kind of sad because my son said he had all tattoos like a jail bird and a tear drop and was real real big and fears the perp may come back because he backed him up.


48 posted on 05/19/2016 4:11:36 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: nickcarraway

If memory serves, the kalidorkia AR has a shrouded magazine release requiring the point of a bullet (or some very clever rings worn on the right hand) to drop the magazine. Add to that a maximum of 10 rounds per magazine, and the best option is three rifles on hand......

haven’t lived in kalifornazia for 4 decades.....would NEVER go back.

KYPD


49 posted on 05/19/2016 4:16:45 PM PDT by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: nickcarraway

They make such idiotic laws and so many of them nobody obeys them or even know they have an illegal gun. An example is when they outlawed SKS rifles with detachable magazines and other features under the original state AWB ban. Nobody turned them in, modified them, or sold them out of state. You just don’t see them at the rifle range and hundreds of thousands were sold in California alone. Just check Big-5 sales receipts alone from black Friday’s until the year 2000. When the courts do not throw this crap out and the legislature abuses the constitution so profoundly and illegally, why would you obey any of their nonsense? Their abuse of law makes respect for law laughable and untenable. Most County Sheriffs realize this and openly speak out against what these morons in the capital are doing.


50 posted on 05/19/2016 4:19:21 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: hanamizu
hanamizu said: "A magazine release that can be used by a tool less human is already against the law in Cali."

Not right.

Most of the several so-called "assault weapons" laws in Kalifornia apply to center-fire rifles which can accept a detachable magazine. Such rifles may not have any of a list of evil features, such as a flash-suppressor, pistol-grip, adjustable stock, or some other features.

By installing a "bullet-button" in place of the standard magazine release button, one can then legally have ALL of the evil features.

There is nothing illegal about having a magazine release on a rifle which has none of the evil features. That is, unless the rifle otherwise qualifies as a so-called "assault weapon" under one of the other assault weapon laws.

51 posted on 05/19/2016 4:32:34 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: JOAT

A friend wants to fix a Ruger AR ,
Same as You described?


52 posted on 05/19/2016 5:01:57 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: William Tell

I stand corrected although my answer was based on picturing a standard ar15/ak47 modern sports rifle. Fortunately, I live in a state whose state government’s interest is in expanding rather than reducing its citizens’ firearms freedoms.

A California friend had to choose a bullet button ar15. As I recall, the San Berdoo jihadis had illegally modified their weapons to replace the bulletin buttons making their crimes that much more heinous. (Everyone seems to forget that their main killing weapons were to be bombs (which failed) rather the guns). Just like the Santa Barbara killer killed half of his victims with a knife.

Don’t some of these new laws basically outlaw nearly all semi autos?


53 posted on 05/19/2016 5:03:40 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: nickcarraway
He's been anti gun control for a while. Like since at least 2000.
54 posted on 05/19/2016 5:13:32 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: nickcarraway
JONATHAN J. COOPER

Kin to Jeff Cooper????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper In 1991, he wrote in Guns & Ammo magazine that "no more than five to ten people in a hundred who die by gunfire in Los Angeles are any loss to society. These people fight small wars amongst themselves. It would seem a valid social service to keep them well-supplied with ammunition."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper

55 posted on 05/19/2016 5:13:59 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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To: nickcarraway

California has spent 1.3 billion on the bullet train and not one inch of track has been laid.

They have their priorities all wrong.


56 posted on 05/19/2016 5:18:33 PM PDT by Vic S (I am not a number; I am a free man!)
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To: hanamizu
hanamizu said: "As I recall, the San Berdoo jihadis had illegally modified their weapons to replace the bullet buttons making their crimes that much more heinous."

I would be surprised if it took longer than five or six minutes to return a bullet-button rifle to its original function. Anti-gunners are so ignorant that they treat guns as if they are tremendously complex items. They aren't.

hanamizu said: "Don’t some of these new laws basically outlaw nearly all semi autos?"

I can't speak about the newly proposed laws. I don't have the time or energy to follow all the legislature's nonsense. I will write to the Governor if any of this nonsense reaches his desk.

As for existing law, the impact has mostly been on AR and AK type rifles, due to their visual similarity to the real assault rifles used by the military.

The Ruger Ranch Rifle is very popular with, ... wait for it ..., ranchers. It fires the same round at the same velocity as an M16. Normal capacity magazines are available throughout the U.S., although they are illegal to import into Kalifornia. These rifles are especially useful for protecting stock from predators such as coyotes. I'm not a hunter, but I believe most jurisdictions do not allow the .223 cartridge to be used for most hunting. This is because the round is UNDER-POWERED and is less likely to accomplish a clean kill. It is nowhere near as powerful a round as a 30.06 or a .308.

It is only the ignorance of the anti-gunners and the complicit media that allows these nonsensical laws to be proposed and passed.

One of the really remarkably idiotic efforts is the coming attack on purchasing ammunition. The average criminal probably uses ten rounds in his whole career. Criminals and terrorist will NEVER have trouble getting sufficient ammunition for their nefarious purposes. Ammunition laws will only have the effect of penalizing the law-abiding and causing some people to stock-pile enormous quantities of ammo that should be available at any time off-the-shelf.

57 posted on 05/19/2016 5:31:11 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Bogey78O

Thanks; now I understand.


58 posted on 05/19/2016 6:02:01 PM PDT by majormaturity
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To: Big Red Badger
Yes.

Push the stupid 'bullet button' in as far as possible.

Grasp the bar on the opposite side of the receiver.

A skinny rod connects the 2 pieces.

Sever it with a cut off wheel, (small), on a dremel or air tool.

Simply replace the offending pieces with stock MIL-SPEC parts.

IF it is an early model, there are Youtube videos showing how to screw the bullet button out using a spent .22 shell slightly modified. I've found they got wise to that and started bonding the threads.

59 posted on 05/19/2016 7:01:35 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: Organic Panic

Be easier to point to crime caused by well intentioned (LOL) do gooder pols


60 posted on 05/19/2016 11:45:33 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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