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Trump’s Apple iPhone demand not that crazy
royalgazette.com ^ | Vivek Wadhaw

Posted on 05/18/2016 5:16:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

When American companies moved manufacturing to China, it was all about cost. China’s wages were among the lowest in the world and its government provided subsidies and turned a blind eye to labour abuse and environmental destruction.

Things have changed. China’s labour, real estate and energy costs have increased to the point that they are comparable to some parts of the US. Subsidies are harder to get and Chinese labour is not tolerating the abuse that it once did. China is now a more expensive place to manufacture than Indonesia, Thailand, Mexico and India, according to Boston Consulting Group.

Add to this the efforts by the Chinese Government to spur indigenous innovation — by forcing foreign companies to reveal their intellectual property and to use local suppliers — and you have strong motivation to relocate manufacturing.

But Apple is by no means looking to exit from China, its second-largest market. It just announced an investment of $1 billion in Uber’s rival, Didi Chuxing. It clearly saw a large market opportunity and a way to appease the Chinese Government.

Technology is, however, changing the labour-cost equation even more and China is becoming unpredictable because of its faltering economy. It may make sense for Apple to locate some of its manufacturing closer to other markets just to protect itself from this uncertainty.

What is changing the labour situation is robotics. Robots can now do the same manufacturing jobs as humans — for a fraction of the cost. A new generation, from companies such as Rethink Robotics of Boston, ABB of Switzerland and Universal Robots of Denmark are dexterous enough to thread a needle and nimble enough to work beside humans. They can do repetitive and boring circuit board assembly and pack boxes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: idiocy; marxistrant; myopic; trump; zerosumgain
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1 posted on 05/18/2016 5:16:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: hoosiermama; onyx; Jane Long; V K Lee; RitaOK; Black Agnes; nopardons; PennsylvaniaMom; Fai Mao; ...
Ping.

Article says that the operating cost of robots is now about $1 per hour in the U.S. I presume that includes the amortization of purchase price.

2 posted on 05/18/2016 5:20:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

“A new generation, from companies such as Rethink Robotics of Boston, ABB of Switzerland and Universal Robots of Denmark are dexterous enough to thread a needle and nimble enough to work beside humans. They can do repetitive and boring circuit board assembly and pack boxes.”

The unions should not have been so greedy and demanding. They can be replaced!

I wonder if the ice men were unionized, and that’s why the refrigerator was invented...


3 posted on 05/18/2016 5:21:54 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: RoosterRedux

Much of the migration overseas of American Industry is driven by the hyper regulation that is doing nothing but increasing in America. Regulation is expensive and cannot be replaced by robots, no matter how efficient.


4 posted on 05/18/2016 5:24:34 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali soli o feccia.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Vivek Wadhwa is Vice President of Academics and Innovation at Singularity University; an executive-in-residence/adjunct professor at the Masters of Engineering Management Program and Director of Research at the Center for Research Commercialization at Duke University's Pratt School of Engineering; a fellow at Stanford University's Arthur and Toni Rembe Rock Center for Corporate Governance; and a Distinguished Visiting Scholar at the Halle Institute for Global Learning, at Emory University. He has been a Senior Research Associate at Harvard Law School's Labor and Worklife Program and a visiting professor at the School of Information, at the University of California, Berkeley.

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5 posted on 05/18/2016 5:25:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: arthurus

Regulation can be replaced by the stroke of a pen.


6 posted on 05/18/2016 5:26:01 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

A poorly conceived screed which shoots itself in the head with a howitzer in the opening paragraph.


7 posted on 05/18/2016 5:32:04 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: arthurus

Boom. It takes a true idiot both to write a piece not addressing that, or to not immediately notice that it was left out.


8 posted on 05/18/2016 5:35:24 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I read the headline and thought that Trump had a special edition iPhone that wasn’t selling very well.


9 posted on 05/18/2016 5:37:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: MrEdd

Agreed - also has no understanding of the depth of the infrastructure investment to pull off one of those manufacturing “cities” in China. Saying you can replicate that here with the stroke of a president’s pen is just ignorance in its most base state.

Good article, IMO: https://blog.bolt.io/no-you-cant-manufacture-that-like-apple-does-93bea02a3bbf#.l183rzc4z


10 posted on 05/18/2016 5:38:33 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: RoosterRedux

And decades of lobbying and lawsuits. A costly and time consuming prospect which hasn’t happened in the United States.

You are right though, it is technically possible even though we haven’t seen it happen.


11 posted on 05/18/2016 5:38:46 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: CottonBall
I wonder if the ice men were unionized, and that’s why the refrigerator was invented...
You might be right, but I's suppose that the fact that the ice kept melting in the icebox and had to be replaced daily was the big driver...
12 posted on 05/18/2016 5:55:33 AM PDT by doc11355
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To: CottonBall
I wonder if the ice men were unionized, and that’s why the refrigerator was invented...

You might be right, but I's suppose that the fact that the ice kept melting in the icebox and had to be replaced daily was the big driver...

13 posted on 05/18/2016 5:56:11 AM PDT by doc11355
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To: MrEdd
And decades of lobbying and lawsuits. A costly and time consuming prospect which hasn't’t happened in the United States.

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To say that the US is not business friendly is an understatement. While there are many regulations in many industries some are absolutely crushing. While regulations and wages make manufacturing expensive the biggest impediment to manufacturing is the US corporate tax structure. When you have over 35% of your profits taken in the form of tax it means that you have to raise your prices 35% to cover it.

There are areas such as cigarette manufacturing and gasoline production that the government makes hundreds of times more money than the manufacturer because of taxes.

The sad thing is that business does not really pay tax they make you pay it in the form of higher prices for their goods. That of course means that those goods are not competitive on the the foreign market, and can't even compete at home with offshore manufacturers. Manufacturers don't go overseas so that they can make a higher profit, they go overseas so they can stay in business. If they don't go their market share dwindles because of their taxed pricing until they are forced to close up shop.

14 posted on 05/18/2016 6:01:07 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: RoosterRedux

Why pick on Apple, punishing them for having a U.S. corporate headquarters? Samsung should be exempted because they AREN’T based here? Tariffs can have a role, but they have to be thought out. (For you Milton Friedman types out there, my main support for tariffs has to do with national security, not with economic efficiency or even high employment rates, and Friedman does not, and really cannot, deal with it from that angle.)


15 posted on 05/18/2016 6:05:40 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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I am a Friedmanite, but, yes, tariffs have a role in protecting national security.

They also have a role in defending against tariffs being applied unfairly to our products by trade partners.

16 posted on 05/18/2016 6:16:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: doc11355

;)


17 posted on 05/18/2016 6:19:19 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: RoosterRedux
Article says that the operating cost of robots is now about $1 per hour in the U.S. I presume that includes the amortization of purchase price.

There are 8,760 hours in a 365 day year.

I have no idea what any particular robot costs, but it has to be awfully cheap for $8760 to cover maintenance, power, human supervision & programming, and amortization.

18 posted on 05/18/2016 6:44:25 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: RoosterRedux

All excellent points. One of the more enduring legacies of a Trump Administration, I suspect, will be the launch of the real robotics manufacturing revolution right here in the USA. Between cutting off illegal immigration (the cheap labor express) and encouraging on-shoring, US companies will be investing in robotics hugely. This will put the entire economy on a 21st century footing.


19 posted on 05/18/2016 7:44:10 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: MrEdd

Regulation and the highest taxes in the industrialized world. Also there is the taxation of all profits made anywhere in the world for an American company. No other major country does that. It saves that double taxation if the company relocates offshore and becomes a Foreign company.


20 posted on 05/18/2016 8:25:53 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali soli o feccia.)
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