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‘Progressive economics strikes again!’ Wendy’s proves that the real minimum wage is actually $0.00
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Posted on 05/13/2016 6:18:04 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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1 posted on 05/13/2016 6:18:05 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Fine, but do you believe that our friends on the let will buy that? They have no money.


2 posted on 05/13/2016 6:21:36 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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If Wendy's has less employees and they all earn a living wage ($12/hour for fully trained and a year or so on the job) I'm all for it. If they can live better and NOT collect any government handouts, everybody gains.

All those part time cheap labor jobs are doing is subsidizing folks who are living off handouts. Why should they be subsidized with that money? It means they're living better on the dole than off of it. They already get too much.

3 posted on 05/13/2016 6:22:48 AM PDT by grania
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To: TigerClaws
Unfortunately, the progs scatter like cockroaches after they have created their “little messes.” Too bad, because it would be nice to hear from them when people start losing their jobs. It would be even nicer if they might admit that they were wrong.
4 posted on 05/13/2016 6:24:56 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: TigerClaws

Don’t visit Micky D’s often, but just returned from a mini vacation and use them for rest breaks. They are upgrading their menu displays. We drive with Polaroid prescription glasses and found that the kiosk displays and lighted menu displays are unreadable unless you tilt your head radically.

Also the menu displays switch displays of items like specialty coffees, etc. the switches happen so fast there is not time to read all the items available so you have to wait for the sign to cycle.

Very bad implementation of technology ....!!!


5 posted on 05/13/2016 6:26:16 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: grania

You have a point in that the cycle will be:

More people out of a job/living on handouts = Demand for more revenue for the Federal Government = Higher taxes on the people still working at Wendy’s (including senior management who made this call).

It’s a tangled web of unintended consequences.


6 posted on 05/13/2016 6:29:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TigerClaws

Having been in the fast food business, I can tell you that there’s more than meets the eye in this move to automate.

Do you ever get a less-than-welcome feeling from those behind the counter when you order your burger combo? From an overwhelming majority of fast food emporia? Aren’t some of them downright hostile? The ‘burbs are almost as bad as inner-city establishments.

Wendy’s (and others) have been surveying customers for some time now. They know what their achilles heel is. They are gambling that you’d rather have near-zero human contact to acquire your food, than the status quo, which the fast food business just hasn’t been able to fix.

It’s more than just the labor cost. The sad, sad, thing is that the purchase experience may very well be enhanced by removing the human element.


7 posted on 05/13/2016 6:33:57 AM PDT by wayoverontheright (A falling camel attracts many knives.......)
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Maybe our economy has evolved or devolved but fast food joint jobs were not intended to be a lifetime career path. Something is wrong if an adult in his or her late 20s, 30s, 40s is still working in fast food.... and demanding a living wage. This is the real problem and maybe we should be asking why.

Fast food joints cannot afford to pay their employees a lot — because their customers are expecting a dirt cheap, quality, meal.

BTW, I worked in fast food, my wife too, and we gained some valuable life experiences.... but both of us were kids.

8 posted on 05/13/2016 6:35:03 AM PDT by dhs12345
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The liberals and unions have this ‘religious’ belief that ROI is fallacious and that business is there to employ people (their people!) No matter how ofter this is demonstrated to be a fallacy, these babies still insist upon being given the moon!

I remember an AMF proposal from the 1960/70s for an automated restaurant. The film clip was so dated that the father was wearing a hat. Yet even with vacuum-tube computers, the future was still visible!

What is left unsaid by all of the ‘living wage’ propaganda is that these jobs USED TO BE entry level teenage jobs to get a start in the rat-race. NOW, thanks to an INCOMPETENT Administration and ALSO valid trends in technology, the previous middle-class jobs are disappearing at a frightening speed.

Is there a solution? I do not know but I do know that an unemployed / unemployable populace without hope is a very dangerous animal.


9 posted on 05/13/2016 6:37:24 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: wayoverontheright

Extremely good point. Other than Chick-fil-A, I get the “what the phuck do you want” look, by and large.


10 posted on 05/13/2016 6:39:32 AM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

What I’m saying is that I don’t think it will mean more people on the dole. Those folks getting wages that don’t sustain them are still collecting handouts. Because they can get that slight “work subsidy” they have NO incentive to get a real job. Life for folks who need handouts should not be better than what one can sustain with a real job.


11 posted on 05/13/2016 6:40:46 AM PDT by grania
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Well, Wendy’s just proved us right and announced that they’re rolling out self-service kiosks “nationwide” to their 6000 stores later this year

What will these self-service kiosks actually do? There are already self-service kiosks to get drinks in many fast food places - does this just add things like pies and cole slaw to that? I don't believe Wendy's could roll out robotics which could replace the process of cooking frozen burgers and fries this quickly. Can't come fast enough for me - the number of food poisoning cases will probably plummet and the quality of fast food preparation will probably rise as people are taken out of the process.
12 posted on 05/13/2016 6:41:49 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I think you are all missing the Big Picture. The Big Picture is that the Left would rather have people dependent on the Government than working. Especially if they are making enough of a wage that they don’t need Government assistance.

More Clients = More Power. The person they worry about least are the hapless taxpayers. To the Left, the taxpayer is the slave. As long as there are enough suckers around to keep food on the table, the lights on, the iPhones connected and the Starbucks open, life is good.


13 posted on 05/13/2016 6:43:19 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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We have already cut our eating out to twice a month and that was through fast food only. Now it will go to only once a month, if that. Have seen Chick-Filet-A gradually creep up and seems like it just shoots a hole in a $10 bill for two of us. People’s budgets can only handle so much increase and taxes and house insurance have eaten up every extra dollar available.


14 posted on 05/13/2016 6:43:36 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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Pretty soon the Dems will demand companies keep the same level of employment as before. How long before we get to Directive 10-289?


15 posted on 05/13/2016 6:44:01 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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An unintended consequence: Making kiosks cost effective.


16 posted on 05/13/2016 6:44:40 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: TigerClaws

I’d rather use self serve then deal with some of the customer service people I find at Wendy’s.


17 posted on 05/13/2016 6:46:15 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Kiosks will not reduce the fast food workforce to zero, but it will reduce it by maybe 10-20%. Eventually, automation may reduce labor by 80-90%, but that may take 1-2 decades.

My daughter is a part-time waitress at a chain that has installed mini kiosks at tables. Basically, it allows the wait staff to handle about 20% more tables per person. This is good and bad. Good: faster service and more tips for those actually working. Bad: fewer wait staff needed, fewer hours per week.


18 posted on 05/13/2016 6:47:56 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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It’s a tangled web of unintended consequences.

Are you certain that it is 'unintended'?

19 posted on 05/13/2016 6:47:59 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: dhs12345
Fast food joints cannot afford to pay their employees a lot.

My contention is hire less employees who are more efficient and use technology to replace those relatively useless slave-labor employees.

I agree that there has to be provision for entry level jobs. Temporary agencies and manager training opportunities while in school could fill that job. If the laws weren't such a mess, resourceful students could be setting up businesses and providing services. If I were going to college now I'd take some Accounting or other job-training courses while in HS so I'd be elibible for a real job.

20 posted on 05/13/2016 6:48:13 AM PDT by grania
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