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The “Never Trump” Pouters
Frontpagemagazine ^ | May 9, 2016 | David Horowitz

Posted on 05/09/2016 4:31:05 AM PDT by SJackson

The “Never Trump” Pouters       

It’s understandable when Democrats slander Trump, but it’s disgraceful when Republicans echo them.

Reprinted from Breitbart.com.

The conservatives who have declared war on the primary victor are displaying a myopia that could be deadly in November when Trump will lead Republicans against a party that has divided the country, destroyed its borders, empowered its enemies and put 93 million Americans into dependency on the state. This reckless disregard for consequences is matched only by a blindness to what has made Trump the presumptive nominee. When he entered the Republican primaries a year ago Trump was given no chance of surviving even the first contest let alone becoming the Republican nominee. That was the view of all the experts, and especially those experts with the best records of prediction.

Trump - who had never held political office and had no experience in any political job - faced a field of sixteen tested political leaders, including nine governors and five senators from major states. Most of his political opponents were conservatives. During the primaries several hundred million dollars were spent in negative campaign ads – nastier and more personal than in any Republican primary in memory. At least 60,000 of those ads were aimed at Trump, attacking him as a fraud, a corporate predator, a not-so-closet liberal, an ally of Hillary Clinton, indistinguishable from Barack Obama, an ignoramus, and too crass to be president (Bill Clinton anyone?).

These negative ads were directed at Republican primary voters, a constituency well to the right of the party. These primary voters are a constituency that may be said to represent the heart of the conservative movement in America, and are generally more politically engaged and informed than most Republican voters. Trump won their support. He won by millions of votes - more votes from this conservative heartland than any Republican in primary history. To describe Trump as ignorant – as so many beltway intellectuals have – is merely to privilege book knowledge over real world knowledge, not an especially wise way to judge political leaders.

A chorus of detractors has attempted to dismiss Trump’s political victory as representing a mere plurality of primary voters, but how many candidates have won outright majorities among a field of seventeen, or five or even three? When the Republican primary contest was actually reduced to three, Trump beat the “true conservative,” Ted Cruz, with more than fifty percent of the votes. He did this in blue states and red states, and in virtually all precincts and among all Republican demographics. He clinched the nomination by beating Cruz with an outright majority in conservative Indiana.

In opposing the clear choice of the Republican primary electorate the “Never Trump” crowd is simply displaying their contempt for the most politically active Republican voters. This contempt was dramatically displayed during a CNN segment with Trump’s spokeswoman, Katrina Pierson, and Bill Kristol, the self-appointed guru of a Third Party movement whose only result can be to split the Republican ticket and provide Hillary with her best shot at the presidency. Pierson urged Kristol to help unify the Party behind its presumptive nominee. Kristol grinned and answered her: “You want leaders to become followers.” Could there be a more arrogant response? By what authority does Bill Kristol regard himself as a leader? Trump has the confidence of millions of highly committed and generally conservative Republican voters. That makes him a leader. Who does Bill Kristol lead except a coterie of inside-the-beltway foreign policy interventionists, who supported the fiasco in Libya that opened the door to al-Qaeda and ISIS?

I say this as someone who has written three books supporting the intervention in Iraq and who thinks Trump is dead wrong on this issue. However I also understand that the Bush administration did not defend the war the Democrats sabotaged, allowing its critics to turn it into a bad war in the eyes of the American people. Consequently, Trump’s attack on the intervention is a smart political move that will allow him to win over many Democrat, Independent and even conservative voters who think Iraq was a mistake and do not appreciate the necessity of that war or the tragedy of the Democrats’ opposition to it. You can’t reverse historical judgments in election year sound bites. Understanding this, instinctively or otherwise, makes Trump politically smarter than his Washington detractors.

Conservatives like Kristol claim to oppose Trump on principles but then turn to Mitt Romney for a Third Party run. This is the same Mitt Romney who as governor of Massachusetts was the father of Obamacare but ran against Obamacare in 2012. So much for principles.

“True conservatives” claim the Constitution as their bible. But, as everybody knows, the first principle of that document is tnat the people are sovereign. The people’s voice, expressed at the ballot box, determines who leads. The “Never Trump” conservatives don’t respect this principle. What other conclusion can be drawn from their arrogant repudiation of a candidate whose authority derives from the expressed will of the people?

The Never Trump elites claim the voters are fools because Trump is “utterly unfit to be president by temperament, values and policy preferences.” This is the phrase used by Eliot A. Cohen a former Defense and State Department official in the Bush 41 and Bush 43 administrations. It is a sentiment  common to most anti-Trump commentators.

But what can it possibly mean? During the first Republican debate, in front of a television audience of 17 million people, Jeb Bush took a pledge saying he would support whoever eventually won the Republican primaries. But as soon as the winner was declared, Bush reneged on his promise. Is telling the truth a presidential value? Or do the anti-Trumpers make allowances for politicians they support, cutting them slack that permits them to lie or change their minds when it is convenient to do so?

The anti-Trump crowd seems most concerned about the personal insults that Trump used successfully to defeat his formidable and more experienced rivals. Perhaps they are forgetting the hundred million dollars worth of personal insults and attacks that were directed at Rubio and Trump by Bush’s PAC, which the candidate himself never repudiated. Is it their view what is presidential is to have surrogates do your dirty work, while pretending to be innocent of the deed?

Trump has attempted to repair most of the insults he delivered by praising Cruz and Rubio and explaining that he was harsh on Bush because it was a competition and harsh things were being said about him in 60,000 negative ads. Moreover he would consider some of the rivals he had previously bruised to be his running mate. Trump has shown a magnanimity in victory that his antagonists are unable to show in defeat. I would call that presidential.

What about those policy preferences that allegedly disqualify Trump? In his original statement on immigration Trump should have said this. “I love Mexicans. I employ thousands of Mexicans. I want them to come here but I want them to come here legally. If America has no borders we have no country. Here’s the problem: Millions of Mexicans are not coming here legally. Among the illegals being smuggled across our borders are 550,000 criminals who have committed rape, murder, robbery and felonies. This has to stop, and I’m going to stop it. I’m going to build a wall, and I’m going to make Mexico pay for it.

Unfortunately when Trump said words to this effect, he said them backwards. He began by saying Mexico is not sending its best people here, but sending rapists, murderers, drug dealers. It was only after that he said they are also sending good people. I love Mexicans. I employ thousands of Mexicans. I want them to come here, but legally.

Now it’s understandable that Democrats bent on sabotaging our borders should twist his words and make him sound like an anti-Mexican nativist. That’s what Democrats do. But it’s disgraceful when Republicans echo them. Similarly, Donald Trump is not against free trade, but wants the so-called free trade to be fair. Neither is Trump in favor of banning Muslim immigration. He wants a moratorium on Muslim immigration until a screening system is put in place so that we don’t simply open our doors to Muslims from a Taliban and al-Qaeda supporting nation like Pakistan who belong to a terrorist mosques and lie about their home addresses like the San Bernardino shooter. Every conservative should support that, and no conservative should join Democrats in lying about Trump’s position and calling it a permanent ban on Muslims.

Will Trump live up to the conservative promises he has made? Will he build the wall, and defend this country, and give his best effort to putting America’s interests first and making America great again? If you believe that Donald Trump takes the Trump name seriously, and wants to create a monument to his family and himself, it’s a good bet he will try to do just that. And Hillary won’t. She’ll do the opposite. And that is as much certainty about political outcomes as anyone in this life can expect.  



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1 posted on 05/09/2016 4:31:05 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Now they know how we felt (FEEL) about “O”...THEIR hectoring, loudmouth, buffoon.

Except, OUR hectoring, loudmouth buffoon actually KNOWS how the economy works and really DIGS America!

2 posted on 05/09/2016 4:41:11 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: SJackson

Is the last vestige of the worthless Bush family pronounced Heb! or Yeb!


3 posted on 05/09/2016 4:45:43 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SJackson

There is this notion that somehow “conservatism” is a religion with certain tenets that all must agree with, or you will be trashed as an apostate like Trump. How interesting that during the Bush 1 and 2 administrations, there was very little outpouring of name calling from “conservatives” over No Child Left Behind, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, crazy wars where we lost 5000 of our best in Iraq II and the “nation building” of the nuthouse called Afghanistan, the abandonment of no new taxes pledges, the trashing of Reagan’s legacy, etc., NONE of which had the slightest relation to classical or modern conservatism. RomneyCare, Ryan’s signoff on the Obama budget, Boehner’s middle finger to anything other than establishment politics, the Bush family’s pout over losing, big-time so they abandon sworn pledges to support the nominee. If that is “conservativsm” and as the alternative to Trump I have to take a rewind of the Clintons, they can stick it where the sun don’t shine.


4 posted on 05/09/2016 4:49:16 AM PDT by laconic (M)
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To: from occupied ga

Technically, it’s pronounced “Habe” but traditionally we write “Yeb!”


5 posted on 05/09/2016 4:50:57 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: SJackson

Look, lets say you are a car salesman and you sold a car to a guy. You collected the money, or a large down payment. And then the car company says that they won’t deliver the car. You’ve been paid but you can’t deliver. This looks really bad for business.

That is the problem with several “republican leaders and elite”. These guys are in the business of selling government favors. But Trump isn’t interested in agreeing to make good on these backroom deals. Saudi Arabia may lose favors. Mexico may lose funding. Defense contractors who charge a billion dollars for a tank nobody wants, may lose a contract. The Koch brothers don’t know who to back. So they may not support anyone this year. That scares the leadership who sell favors. Because it scares people who buy favors.


6 posted on 05/09/2016 4:55:54 AM PDT by poinq
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To: King of Florida

Thanx :-)


7 posted on 05/09/2016 4:59:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SJackson

Or is it The Never Trump Pooters?

The Pic of Crystal looks like a pre-petard lift off face!


8 posted on 05/09/2016 4:59:30 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: laconic
How interesting that during the Bush 1 and 2 administrations, there was very little outpouring of name calling from “conservatives” over No Child Left Behind, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, crazy wars where we lost 5000 of our best in Iraq II and the “nation building” of the nuthouse called Afghanistan, the abandonment of no new taxes pledges, the trashing of Reagan’s legacy, etc.,

Au contraire. In many conservative circles, including FR, there was great objection to all the above you mention. If you did FR archival research, you would find vociferous opposition to NCLB and the RX drug expansion. Admittedly, the objection to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars was not so much of the underlying principle but the fact that we were not in them to win them - until The Surge.

9 posted on 05/09/2016 5:08:04 AM PDT by randita
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I’m talking about the mainstream conservative “commentariat” such as National Review, George Will, Kristol, etc. and NOT about FR or other sites.


10 posted on 05/09/2016 5:10:10 AM PDT by laconic (M)
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To: SJackson

Puhleeeeze Mr. Trump.........................

Please don’ break MY RICE BOWL.

Don’ break it don’ break it DON’ DON’ DON BREAK IT!!!!

DON’T BREAK (OUR) RICE BOWELLL!!!!!


11 posted on 05/09/2016 5:11:45 AM PDT by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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12 posted on 05/09/2016 5:19:56 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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To: SJackson
The “self described” principled conservatives” who oppose Trump are not conservatives at all. They represent an establishment group that sees the average conservative Americans as nothing but saps to be lied to and manipulated.

They fall into five groups. I call them the five B's. There is some overlap between the groups and some of the NEVER TRUMP people fall into more than one of these groups. I challenge anyone to find any who are not included in at least one of the groups.

1. THE BRIBED - These are the people paid by groups whose interest is directly contradictory to interest of the average American. They depend on the globalists to fund their campaigns. Then they go before the voters and pretend to care about them but hide their try intentions. The American people are sick of these people. They don't trust them. The high paid consultants can create some emotional appeal for them but it gets more difficult. They promise all kinds of things and then when it counts go along with whatever leftist policies are proposed.

2. THE BEHOLDEN - There is some overlap with the BRIBED but these are primarily New York and Washington commentators who have no real audience and whose very existence and career depend on a small network of supporters. They don't care about the American people and the American people don't care about them. But their small network of supporters provides them with media access and employment often with large publications and institutions.

3. THE BLACKMAILED - Ever since the Clintons got hold of the FBI files many Washington politicians have been afraid to challenge them or tell the truth. It is said that the Obama administration has also blackmailed many Republicans into unexpected compliance. While these politicians and pundits are afraid to attack liberal Democrats on important issues they see no problems with attacking Republicans.

4 THE BUSHES - Many of the instigators of the stop Trump movement appear to be associated with the Bush family interests. When Bush was still running the idea was to attack Trump but not his supporters. Once Bush left the race it was time to destroy Trump. Candidates were told to go after Trump and personally ridicule him. Candidates were told to gang up against Trump. Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney attacked Trump continually in public speeches. The Bushes represent open borders, globalism and alliances with liberals. The big dollar PAC’s attacking Trump with negative ads were primarily supported by Bush and Romney donors.

5. THE BLIND - There are some people unfamiliar with the political scene who think the open borders, pro Muslim globalists actually represent their interests. They are confused when they hear people say they are “principled conservatives” and that Trump is a liberal or reality show host or that Trump will ruin America. The Trump is a racist and Trump is a hater theme has been repeated continually. Some people have believed it.

I think all of these groups would prefer a Clinton victory to a Trump victory.

13 posted on 05/09/2016 5:26:25 AM PDT by detective
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To: SJackson

As I’ve posted before;

What Republican politicians and pundits fail to realize is that just as THEY were the reason for the “tea party,” so too are THEY the reason for Trump.


14 posted on 05/09/2016 5:26:52 AM PDT by Roccus (Fighting POLITICIANS is the true WOT)
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I just got back to the house and read this. On the drive I heard Breitbart radio with lots of Cruzlim callers. In sum, their feelings are hurt. They were demanding Trump apologize. There’d be a real benefit to that in that it would end their rear guard action. But I really have to wonder, apologize for what? Winning? We have to beat the democrats, what else matters, hurt feelings, or not?

Four years from now, a new lefty SCOTUS with 30 years of headroom, $6 trillion more in debt, 30 million amnestied, tax rates over 50%, no 2a anymore, a new 1a with religion taken out, planned parenthood with a cabinet post? What can’t they see?


15 posted on 05/09/2016 5:29:36 AM PDT by major-pelham
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I so deeply loath these scumbags; but I’m secure in the knowledge that ultimately their treason will be for naught and America will beat them.


16 posted on 05/09/2016 5:36:56 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SJackson

Good for David


17 posted on 05/09/2016 5:43:26 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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David Horowitz is one smart writer. He did support the Iraq war and admits it {so did I}, but he also acknowledges that GWB not defending himself and his actions caused the demonRATs to get the upper hand in public opinion.

GWB was weak on borders {just American borders} and he expanded federal intervention in education "No child left behind" with the murderer from Taxachewsits, expanded medicade, didn't go after the chemical weapons {which every one knew were sent to Syria}, didn't stop Iran from developing nukes {he should have bombed the shit out of Iran}, and now won't support Trump.

Horowitz is laying down his marker, he is now backing Trump, and guys like Rush and his brother better get the message.

I've already cut my 28+year listening and spending with Rush and just last week bought into Laura365 and it's only $50/year. She is really good and replaces Rush very easily.

BYE, BYE RUSH!!

18 posted on 05/09/2016 5:45:30 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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Kristol’s face would have a more pleasant expression if he had just eaten an ACTUAL sh*t sandwich.


19 posted on 05/09/2016 5:56:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Most of the ‘Never Trumpers’ will vote for Hillary.

How Bernie Sanders has changed the Democratic Party
MJ Lee

By MJ Lee, CNN Politics Reporter
May 9, 2016

Morgantown, West Virginia (CNN)The math is against Bernie Sanders in his fight for the White House. But the Vermont senator is poised to leave behind a durable legacy: A generation of liberal voters enthralled by his populist message — and a Democratic Party whose ideological center has shifted left during the 2016 election.
The effort now is to make sure things stay that way.

Sanders has vowed to take his campaign to the Democratic convention, but he’s also signaled that his effort is now more of a movement than a competitive political machine. He’s slashed staff and slowed down his breakneck pace of campaigning.
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On the trail, his core issues like income equality and campaign finance reform still loom large, but the senator has taken to reflecting on the arc of his campaign. He frequently reminds his followers that their revolution began as an unlikely campaign that the media and the political class outright dismissed.
“When we began this campaign, nobody really thought it would go very far because many of the pundits were saying who in America supports the idea of a political revolution?” Sanders said at a campaign rally in Morgantown Thursday night. West Virginia and Nebraska vote Tuesday night.
As Hillary Clinton stands on the cusp of clinching her party’s nomination and facing off against Donald Trump, even Democrats supporting her say Sanders has permanently changed the political landscape. He’s introduced new ideas that have become fixtures in Democratic debates — like his signature proposal for free college — and raised expectations of the party’s liberal base.
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Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who endorsed Clinton but has also publicly praised Sanders’ role in the Democratic primary, said the senator’s campaign has pulled both the party and Clinton in a more liberal direction.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party/index.html


20 posted on 05/09/2016 6:00:07 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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