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Hillary Clinton Wants Christians to Give Up on Bible Beliefs
Charizma News ^ | 4/28/2015 | Ron Cantor

Posted on 05/04/2016 12:12:57 AM PDT by Lera

Hillary Clinton claims to be Christian. Barack Obama claims to be a Christian. And I am claiming to be a brain surgeon! Any takers?

You see just saying, "I am a brain surgeon," doesn't mean I can perform brain surgery. I would need to back it up with a diploma and years of training. In the same way, no American will get elected president claiming, "The Bible is outdated, it's just a bunch of stories. I am a humanistic socialist at heart!" Sure the left will have no problem with that, but you can't win without independents. So the candidates claim to be Christian--despite having very unchristian positions.

However in a day where anti-biblical behavior is celebrated, where Bruce Jenner is called a hero (not for winning the decathlon, but for identifying as a woman), it is only a matter of time before politicians began to boldly speak against the Bible.

Hillary Clinton is testing the waters. It is one thing to take anti-biblical positions, but to publicly call Americans to forsake the Bible is too much. Giving an address at the Women in the World Summit last week, she made this statement:

Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth, and laws don't count for much if they're not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice--not just on paper. Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed.

It used to be, you were considered compassionate, caring and humble to embrace the values of the Bible. Now you are the enemy ... according to Secretary Clinton and President Obama. It is only going to get worse.


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To: Lera

This is why “NeverTrump” makes me mad. Hillary must be stopped. By not voting, or by writing in someone else, will help her win. Just look at the 2012 election ... many stayed home and we got 4 more years of the Obama nightmare.


21 posted on 05/04/2016 4:13:01 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

“Changed” in the moonbat lexicon means obliterated.


22 posted on 05/04/2016 4:16:34 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: Lera; LucyT; Whenifhow

Lera,

Thanks for the info!

Pinging this one; check out the link in #4

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3427250/posts?page=4#4


23 posted on 05/04/2016 4:20:12 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SubMareener
Now, Donald Trump doesn’t spend a lot of time articulating “constitutional positions” because he knows that most people are not as smart as you and me and can’t really handle abstract concepts such as those.

Constitutional principles don't require 'smarts'. They are based upon God-given rights.

You may be right,... that many people today in the US ignore them. An amazing number of people today accept transgenderism and LGBT BS, when they can't even look between their legs or watch farm animals or dogs and cats to figure out simple things. Maybe lots of people aren't patient enough to grasp the basics of God given rights.

24 posted on 05/04/2016 4:24:57 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

I remember hearing a certain black senator saying he was Christian about 8 years ago. Look where it got us. And if course it was a lie just like his ascension to the presidency.


25 posted on 05/04/2016 5:01:01 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: raybbr

“The Art of the Deal”. Great! Who will he “deal” with and what will he trade for the wall? That’s just one part. You are so impressed by his “dealing”. In a deal you have to give up something to get something”

Without the U;S. as a safety valve Mexico would long ago have had a bloody revolution. By not exporting her poor and her criminals and drugs it would already have happened. We hold all the cards, Trump knows it, the few families that rule Mexico know it, and anybody that has paid attention knows it.


26 posted on 05/04/2016 5:23:26 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: momincombatboots

“I am a never trump person.. You tell me how trump is better. You must have reasons. Is it the 45 percent tariff on Mexico? Planned parenthood..no I can’t keep up with his Kerry-esque positions. I am a rational, reasonable constitutionalist. Give me trumps constitutional positions.
It is a sincere request, so you know.”

I think that most of Trump’s campaign is actually based on Constitutional issues it is just that he does not use the term. This has caused some confusion and I believe led to the claim that Trump is in some way, not a “Constitutional Conservative.” Lets look at Trumps stated positions and see if they can be grounded in the Constitution.

I apologize for the length

1. An emphasis upon justice and upholding the law is an emphasis on upholding the Constitution.
When Trump launched his campaign last June in his first speech announcing his candidacy he made the following statement that he has repeated many, many, many times since. “A nation without borders is not a nation and a nation without laws is not a nation.” That statement cuts to the heart of the Constitution because the Constitution is the basis of all law in the US. One of the primary duties of the president is to uphold the law. If part of the law is inconsistently applied due to a differing world view or for simple venality then the whole law is damaged. In disregarding the lawful way to amend the Constitution the democrats have debased the Constitution. Specifically as far as the Trump campaign has been concerned the Obama administration has by disregarding Federal Immigration law damaged the Constitution.

By pledging to uphold immigration law and to prosecute law breakers employed by the government and to cease using tax law as a cudgel against political opponents Trump is enforcing the Constitution.

Obama through his numerous executive orders that bypass the legislative process has, in effect said; “I am the law not the Constitution.”

In refusing to prosecute democrats for political reasons the Constitution is damaged.

By allowing judicial over reach the Constitution is damaged.

Trump has spoken out against all these things. When Trump says that he will uphold the law he is saying that he will uphold the Constitution. While I agree with the Cruz supporters that Trump is probably not an expert in Constitutional law I think that his pledge to uphold and enforce the whole law is an implicit pledge to uphold the Constitution.

2. National concealed carry.
Trump has put forward a plan to create a national concealed carry permit. This is the most far reaching roll back of anti second-amendment law ever proposed. This is clearly a Constitutional issue and Trump is on the right side of it.

3. Trump supports the right of free association
Trump has promised to repeal ObamaCare. This is a Constitutional issue because being forced into Obama Care violates our freedom of association. Once again he does not call this a Constitutional issue because he prefers to think of himself as a pragmatist but the fact remain. ObamaCare not only does not work but violates the Bill of Rights.

4. By advocating the removal of restrictions on selling health insurance across state lines Trump is upholding the interstate commerce clause - a Constitutional issue

5.Unlimited immigration deprives citizens of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Trump upholds the Constitution on immigration. This one is tricky. One of our most basic right is the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Letting millions upon millions of illegals invade our country has deprived us of those. We are on our way to becoming slaves because excess labor has depressed wages meaning that a majority of Households now qualify for some form of government assistance. Violent illegals regularly deprive our citizens of live and make us fearful to exercise our liberty. Unlimited immigration also deprives many of their property rights. This is a Constitutional Issue.

6. Trump is the only candidate supporting free speech
By standing up to the Politically Correct speech bullies Trump and Trump alone of the Republican candidates, is rebuking those that wish to limit free speech. This is certainly a Constitutional issue.

7. Trump supports the balance of powers within the government
When Trump speaks of repealing the executive orders promulgated by Obama is saying he wants to restore the balance of power between the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government. Trump realizes that his programs will take bills passed by congress. That is why he has said that he wants a Vice President that is familiar with the legislative process. He is not planning to just institute his agenda by fiat. That is a Constitutional issue.

8. Trump wants to protect us from all enemies foreign and domestic.
Trumps position on trade is actually a Constitutional issue. One of the, perhaps the foremost duties of the government is to protect the citizens of the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic. Unjust agreements that cost US citizen their jobs, that undermine the economy of the US that surrender sovereignty should be be viewed as acts of an enemy that the citizens should be Constitutionally protected from. It is evil for China, South Korea, France, Mexico Luxemburg or the Romulans, Klingons and Vulcans for that matter to dump products below cost in the US and destroy the US economy. Citizens have a right to be protected from predatory trade masquerading as “Free Trade.”

Trump has also talked at length about military preparedness. Unlike Hillary he understands the value of a powerful military in preserving peace and ensuring prosperity

9. Negotiating treaties is the prerogative of the president.
By saying that he wants to renegotiate bad treaties Trump would simply be claim his Constitutional authority.

10. By opposing the Federally all but mandated “Common Core” school curriculum Trump has shown that he is in favor of limiting the reach and power of the Federal Government. Common Core is a bad pedagogical approach. People that research pedagogy know what works and the approach, never mind the content, of Common Core is a disaster and would be even if the content were not problematic. Notice that Trump has said that he wants to not just abolish Common Core but return the selection of pedagogy to the local level. Hello 10th Amendment. This is a Constitutional issue.

11. The moratorium on immigrants from Islamic countries
This is, to me constitutional because I am not a left wing jingoist. I believe the rights and responsibilities granted to citizens of the United States stop at the edge of the water. People in other countries do not fall under the protection of the US Bill of Rights and the Constitution. We may believe that our rights are inalienable but many do not and we have a right to protect ourselves and our Constitution from those whop do not appreciate, honor or respect our values. We do not have to let people within our borders that we suspect wish to harm us.

While Trump does generally not call these issue Constitutional they are obviously Constitutional issues if you look at them. While some of these are more clear cut than others I believe that if you look at the Trump campaign and take a moment to think about it you can see that most of the issues he talks about are actually grounded in Constitutional ideas.

I am not a legal scholar. These thoughts are my own.


27 posted on 05/04/2016 5:35:53 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardener chatting with friends)
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To: Lera
Hillary Clinton Wants Christians to Give Up on Bible Beliefs

And to other folks she's said:

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."


28 posted on 05/04/2016 5:48:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: John W
But look around even here at FR, we are not nearly the God-fearing folks we used to be.

What should I look for?

Got any metrics to back this up?

29 posted on 05/04/2016 5:51:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lera

I would like to see Hillary and the democrats try to change the beliefs of Christians. On the one hand a lot of so called Christians have no clue what the bible says about their political positions but it’s hard to think of them as Christians at all. But serious bible reading and believing Christians would love to see the Dems out their godless selves and go after us.


30 posted on 05/04/2016 5:52:34 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: Lera

Bubba took Hillary to church for her first time.

When the offering plate was passed Hillary looked it all over and took the only $20 exclaiming “Oh, is this for me?”


31 posted on 05/04/2016 5:53:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....)
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To: Fai Mao

Didn’t take long for this thread about Hillary to be one about Trump!


32 posted on 05/04/2016 5:53:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lera

I’m seeing a pattern here. When she is in the presence of women she goes full anti-Christian. The Serpent Of Old must be very proud of those women’s world summit thingies.


33 posted on 05/04/2016 5:54:59 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: Lera

When her and Bill are no longer above ground, but under it, the World will be a better place.


34 posted on 05/04/2016 5:57:41 AM PDT by sport
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To: Elsie

No, no metrics. Just a general thought while reading posts and comments on FR recently that folks are much more into themselves and their perceived needs than serving their Creator. But, it has been somewhat of a silly season so maybe it isn’t indicative of normal reality here.


35 posted on 05/04/2016 6:06:05 AM PDT by John W (Under One Year And Counting!)
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To: Lera

Bookmark


36 posted on 05/04/2016 6:07:04 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: momincombatboots
I am a never trump person.. You tell me how trump is better.

Trump is culturally Christian. Yes, he is a sinner - just like everyone! But he accepts the foundational traditions of our culture. Can you imagine Hillary defending saying "Merry Christmas"? Hillary is a radical feminist. Radical feminism opposes everything the Bible and every other religious tradition teaches about the proper roles of men and women. Hillary will appoint judges who want to ban the Bible. Trump will appoint judges who stand for the First Amendment.

As I've been saying for some time: Hillary or Trump is not a difficult choice.

37 posted on 05/04/2016 6:12:03 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint

But he accepts the foundational traditions of our culture.


38 posted on 05/04/2016 6:16:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: al_c

If Trump only does two or three things on his list it will be more than the current POS has done. If he makes illegally immigration go down that means less robbing of my paycheck goes toward paying them o breed more Democrats and I’m fine with that...: )


39 posted on 05/04/2016 6:17:39 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: John W
Just a general thought while reading posts and comments on FR recently that folks are much more into themselves and their perceived needs than serving their Creator.

I understand.

I see similar things.

But I have to admit that part of it is because MY perspective has changed through the years as well.

40 posted on 05/04/2016 6:17:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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