I agree, I vote no zot. However, some deep inner reflection on weaning off Ted Cruz is in order, say a week or so?
Posted on 05/02/2016 9:05:42 PM PDT by bobo1
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So where do you disagree? The people should be moral and God fearing or the Republic will faulter which is just what we are see now happen before our eyes.
I disagree with where people too often take that argument - that the government should be an enforcer of morals.
I would argue that said government enforcement is detrimental to morality, as genuine virtue is wholly voluntary.
There was a story on a number of mainstream news sites the other day about a law suit being filled against Trump for rape of a underaged girl. Even the the the reported wrote that the lawsuit was suspect. I myself wouldn’t post the story because it was to me CLEARLY suspect, but even you know that if the same suit had been filled under the same circumstances agains Cruz it would have been not only posted multiple times on FR, but most Trump supporters would have believe it and beleive it to their grave.
> what do you know about the formation and the maintenance of Republic that they didn’t?
It failed.
That’s like putting something together and not reading the instruction and then when it doesn’t come out right blaming it on the instruction.
It exposes a fatal flaw in the instructions, that they were insufficient for self-maintenance. Or perhaps the flaw was that they were made for a people that doesn’t, and can’t, exist.
Either way, we have the benefit of hindsight, and the one thing we can determine for sure is that the instructions didn’t work.
From the very beginning the federal government began to accumulate power at the expense of the people and the States, and it has never stopped since, leaving us today with a totalitarian despotism that interferes with every aspect of the private affairs of citizens.
I should also note that the government reaction to the Whiskey Rebellion proves that not even the most well-regarded of the Founders couldn’t obey those instructions.
as a forum, we've become as much intolerant as our creep in the white hut...as much as the SCM...as much as our college "presidents"...heck, we've become as intolerant as ESPN, the jerks...
take a breather....and come back....
I might also suggest that you stick only to threads where its all about food, gardening, music, or movies, etc...people on those threads seem to be more conversational and pleasant....
What’s your explanation of Washington himself being unable to follow those instructions, having had a hand in their construction and having personally known all of the others you have been quoting?
The Whiskey was plainly unconstitutional and the opponents where represent and had means to Appeal and repeal it. It is after all a Republic not a democracy.
It might be time for those of us who were around during the Clinton years to re-assert.
The Whiskey Act was a preview of the abuses to come, many following the same pattern - populous, wealthy northeastern states imposing their will on those with less political influence.
This same pattern continues today, right up to imposing acceptance of transgenders in the ladies’ restroom. More diktat from wealthy northeastern states being imposed by force on wide swaths of the country that don’t want it.
It’s a fundamental flaw in the model. A Republic is not supposed to allow majorities to impose their will, willy-nilly, on the whole of the population. Yet under the Constitution, exactly that had started occurring from the very earliest years.
I know the story you mean, and I had the same reaction, including that some angry Trump supporters would believe it forever. I find it sad that even conservatives are that easily manipulated by the media. CNN, MSNBC, NPR, and the rest want us to hate each other, and they are playing up any story that will split the Trump and Cruz voters. Some Trump voters are way past the point where they are no longer rational about Cruz, and the same is true but to a much lesser extent about Cruz voters.
Part of their anger is because Cruz won't drop out. I won't go into detail yet online, but I voted for Trump a week ago and I am more grateful than I can express that Cruz is still in the race. Part of the reason is that Trump will have enough delegates for the first ballot, so it won't matter, while Cruz is choosing more reliably conservative delegates. Trump isn't considering much other than the delegate's pledge to vote Trump. Having Cruz still in the race makes it much harder for Jeb/Rubio/Kasich to replace Trump with a pro-Amnesty candidate, and the Trump voters are missing what Cruz contributes to that entire dynamic of the convention.
If you’re not ready to embrace the post-conservative zeitgeist around here you’re pointed to the door. You don’t just have to agree to vote for the statist orange JFK conspiracy nutjob, you’re expected to embrace all his crazy-eyed idiocy and big government “solutions”. Oh and ignore all his history of moral failures and disgraceful behavior. In his defense, they’ll cit someone else’s possible shortcomings - hmmm, post-Clinton that’s as close to presidential as his behavior’s gonna get.
That is so much butthurt in a single paragraph. It’s beautiful.
You even all use the same childish insults. Literally hundreds of times a day you unoriginal stepford drones write about “butthurt”. I would imagine trumpers use the term more than gay bath house participants.
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