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Prediction Markets Show Cruz Craters After Deal With Kasich; Fiorina, Pence Not Boosting Him
Breitbart ^ | 2 May 16 | Boyle & Badolato

Posted on 05/02/2016 6:26:21 AM PDT by xzins

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To: Principled

“Trump will clinch this - and when he does I expect Cruz to endorse him.”

“flame away”


No flames...competition always forces people to become better if they want to win, and the anti-Hillary candidate MUST be flame-tested in order to beat her in November.

I used to be a Cruz supporter...until I started looking at his positions on immigration and trade vs. Trump’s. No, Trump is certainly not an ideological conservative by any measure, but he is a practical conservative - in conserving our nation’s strength and protecting its (which is to say, OUR) foreign policy and trade interests. His willingness to take on PC in all of its forms, and to REALLY go after Hillary and the Dems, plus his mastery of the media, are huge (”Yuuuuuuge”) pluses. I am, frankly, not too thrilled to see all of the GOPe support for Cruz - I know that they are all whores, and will do ANYTHING to preserve their power and privileges, but this is very disconcerting...and makes Heidi Cruz’ Goldman Sachs connections look downright scary.

I was very happy to see the 2 of them getting along early on, thinking that if Cruz didn’t win, he’d certainly be a good Veep choice (Trump would never take 2nd place to anyone for any reason, so that wouldn’t have been an option). However, as time has passed, and especially lately, I’ve become more and more disenchanted with Cruz’ methods. They don’t match his prior rhetoric, nor (especially) my expectations, as he is a very dirty player. That has been very disillusioning for me.

I’m not so sure that Cruz will endorse Trump. He’s set himself up to have a VERY difficult time walking back his comments about Trump over time (and, of course, that certainly works both ways). Cruz has an ego that is at least as big as Trump’s (and that IS saying something), and saying “I’m sorry” or “Hey, now that I lost, vote for the guy that I’ve been excoriating for the last 6 months” isn’t so easily done. I really hope, for the sake of the country, that you’re right - we need everyone possible on our side (that #NeverHillary side).


41 posted on 05/02/2016 7:18:36 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Principled

It’s going to take me a long time to forget the nasty, malicious, premeditated wholesale lies Cruz told about Trump. If Cruz apologies, ok; it’s over. But who on earth expects him to apologize?


42 posted on 05/02/2016 7:20:12 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: xzins

Of course he didn’t get a boost from Pence. Worst endorsement ever. Sounded more like and endorsement for Trump than for Cruz.


43 posted on 05/02/2016 7:28:45 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: xzins

“Dear Karl...a limited duration reprisal campaign is NOT a war. You go in. You beat the hell out of them. You leave.

You DO NOT stay to ‘build a nation’ and see thousands of your own get killed.

Are they really this stupid?”


No, he’s actually a pretty sharp guy. He knows this, and so do most of the GOPe.

The problem is now, and has ALWAYS BEEN, that he and his ilk think that WE are really this stupid.

That is the essence of the GOPe problem - they think that we are brainless puppets to be manipulated every election cycle, that we don’t think for ourselves, that we have no memories of the promises that they made to us and broke (never having intended to keep them in the first place). Their treatment of the Tea Party as a bigger enemy than the Dems and Obama was prelude to what we’ve been seeing for about the last year. Well, GOPe, in case the message hasn’t gotten through, WE are sick & tired of you, we can’t stand you, we wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire...and Rove would likely be lit on fire by most of the base, with great pleasure.


44 posted on 05/02/2016 7:29:20 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ceebass

It’s a great installment...but I read it yesterday. Not complaining at all, but something this good, you want more of. :)


45 posted on 05/02/2016 7:30:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: dynoman
I can’t believe what we are seeing from the Cruz campaign. We are witnessing a political suicide.

Yep. If he had stuck to his principles and spoke about his accomplishments and what he intended to do as president instead of taking every opportunity to bash Trump, who knows how the race would look at this point? The wheels are totally off the Cruz campaign now.

46 posted on 05/02/2016 7:30:42 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: al_c

“Of course he didn’t get a boost from Pence. Worst endorsement ever. Sounded more like and endorsement for Trump than for Cruz.”


Politicians may be obtuse regarding many things, but they can usually count pretty well...and Pence isn’t one of the more stupid ones, that’s for sure. He was trying to walk a very thin tightrope, and not offend either side, because he has an election coming up. But he couldn’t say NOTHING, not as governor, so he praised Trump and said that he’d vote for Cruz...but support whomever was the nominee in November. Yeah, he was on all sides of that one, a true politician.


47 posted on 05/02/2016 7:34:52 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: xzins

‘If Rove is really that stupid, you wonder how anyone ever won with him as a guide.’

The only reason Kerry didn’t best Bush/Rove was the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. Recall, too, that Rove never had a civil word for the SVfT. He thought they were too divisive.


48 posted on 05/02/2016 7:40:29 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

best = beat


49 posted on 05/02/2016 7:40:59 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Principled
We have a representative democracy - each state decides its own rules for primaries... the federal government doesn’t. So Cruz is going at it the way it was designed. Trump is going at it like we live in a pure democracy.

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I believe you are 100% wrong in this assessment.

Trump has a very limited budget, it is his own money. He has never been a tax and spend other peoples money, he has been a borrow and spend and pay it back and keep the profit person. He is not borrowing for this contest, he is simply trying to do this on the cheap and I think he has been very effective. We do have a representative Democracy. I don't think there is anybody in any political office any smarter than Trump. People said George W was dumb. How silly, he was a fighter pilot. People say Trump is dumb, how silly he graduated Wharton and is a Billionaire 10 times over.

Trump is not a dummy, he accomplishes what he sets out to do, I am impressed.

He will beat Hillary like a drum.

50 posted on 05/02/2016 7:46:27 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: xzins
I believer Boehner calling Cruz names was also by design of the GOPE to support the Cruz campaign. They were trying to get Cruz some of his outsider cred back, and they thought hated Boehner could do it.

I thought so too! Almost everybody hates Boehner and knows he's a filthy liar. Besides that, he's demonstrated that he's on the Bush team and research shows he ALWAYS HAS BEEN!

51 posted on 05/02/2016 7:46:33 AM PDT by Sal (It's time to flush the 'PEE away!)
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To: Principled

Principled stated:

“We have a representative democracy”

This is a false statement. Our founders hated democracy considering a form of Tyranny by majority that is short lived and violent. We live in a Constitutional Republic. There is no legitimate reason in a Republic for the existence of Super and Unbound delegates other then to protect a ruling class.


52 posted on 05/02/2016 7:54:28 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: al_c

I listened to it live, and I kept saying to myself, “Did he even once use the word endorse?”

And he didn’t.

It was basically a CYA session.


53 posted on 05/02/2016 7:57:42 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Ancesthntr

I just might let the fire burn for a while and THEN piss on them. :>)


54 posted on 05/02/2016 7:58:57 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: xzins
It was basically a CYA session.

Yep. Gotta protect his re-election bid.

55 posted on 05/02/2016 8:06:55 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Fantasywriter

The Swift Boat Veterans were my favorite part of that entire campaign.

They gave rise to the jokes about Kerry on clandestine missions up nameless tributaries, rivers, nations.

Just reporting for duty, ya know. :>)

“I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me.”

However seared he was, Kerry’s spokesmen now say his memory was faulty. When the Swift boat veterans who oppose Kerry presented statements from his commanders and members of his unit denying that his boat entered Cambodia


56 posted on 05/02/2016 8:13:47 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Fantasywriter

the last 3 lines were a quote from the WaPo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27211-2004Aug23.html


57 posted on 05/02/2016 8:23:36 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: xzins

The Swift-Vets were heroes. We owe them so much. I lived in MA at the time, and listened daily to Howie Carr. He loved to play that “seared, SEARED” quote on his show. He found humorous uses for it.

That was the election cycle I learned that Kerry’s nickname was Rice-Butt. Apparently he fragged himself, accidentally, in the rump with hard rice kernels. Word was he applied for and received a Purple Heart for these hinter ‘injuries.’


58 posted on 05/02/2016 8:27:25 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: xzins

I think it’s a combination of stupid - and very shallow thinking.


59 posted on 05/02/2016 8:35:49 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: xzins

Superficial thinking vs strategic thinking.


60 posted on 05/02/2016 8:36:14 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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