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Only One of Six Air Force F-35s Could Actually Take Off During Testing
Fortune ^ | APRIL 28, 2016 | Clay Dillow

Posted on 04/29/2016 10:35:37 AM PDT by JhawkAtty

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Congress should require Lockheed to pay Elon Musk to come in and assess whether the F-35 is just stillborn or whether its capable of being saved.
1 posted on 04/29/2016 10:35:37 AM PDT by JhawkAtty
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“At this point, what difference does it make?”


2 posted on 04/29/2016 10:43:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Harvey Dent -- can he be trusted?)
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The movie “Pentagon Wars” sorta explains it all. Here’s a YouTube excerpt:
http://youtu.be/pyakI9GeYRs


3 posted on 04/29/2016 10:43:41 AM PDT by captain_dave
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0dungheap is only happy to telegraph this information to our enemies. Nice work, 0dunga.


4 posted on 04/29/2016 10:43:44 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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It’s not the only recent example of “immature systems and software” stalling progress on the $400 billion F-35 program.

Hey they're only words. They don't actually have to mean anything. Especially upon critical reading.

5 posted on 04/29/2016 10:45:41 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Why do I have a feeling that this is actually “Part Of The Plan” rather than merely incompetence?


6 posted on 04/29/2016 10:47:03 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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I would think the real discussions center on spreading the federal dollars over as many congressional districts as possible so the project can’t be killed.


7 posted on 04/29/2016 10:48:54 AM PDT by Wolfie
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There’s an old saying that the camel is a horse designed by committee.


8 posted on 04/29/2016 10:53:16 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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We’d be better off just launching huge wads of cash at our enemies, oh wait that’s exactly what we just did to Iran.


9 posted on 04/29/2016 10:56:08 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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Yesterday, there was the thread about a US Congress committee strongly requesting the USAF to hold off the decommissioning of the A-10 (Warthog) until a fly-off could prove that the F-35 would be an improvement / barely adequate replacement! I do have 'some' sympathy for the USAF in that with the severe budget constraints that are making mere training hours difficult, having to maintain the aging A-10 is something they would like to drop.

That being said, for a ground-pounder to place an air-support call, only to be told that you'll have to wait while the software is debugged (in about a week or so) is not an attractive scenario! This situation reminds me strongly of Arthur Clarke's short story "Superiority" (1951).

10 posted on 04/29/2016 10:58:36 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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Why build jets so susceptible to EMP attacks?
11 posted on 04/29/2016 11:00:15 AM PDT by jetson
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During a mock deployment at Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho, just one of the $100 million Lockheed Martin F-35s was able to boot its software successfully and get itself airborne during an exercise designed to test the readiness of the F-35, FlightGlobal reports.

Good test, but bad response from the Air Force.

12 posted on 04/29/2016 11:03:52 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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>That being said, for a ground-pounder to place an air-support call, only to be told that you'll have to wait while the software is debugged (in about a week or so) is not an attractive scenario! This situation reminds me strongly of Arthur Clarke's short story “Superiority” (1951).

What we actually need are Russian style armored attack choppers for CAS. Ours are quite old and geared for destroying tanks, not CAS operations.

13 posted on 04/29/2016 11:04:15 AM PDT by RedWulf (Defeat Hillery or kiss the republic goodbye.)
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Could the software providers be infiltrated by enemy operatives?


14 posted on 04/29/2016 11:07:26 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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It ain't the first time this type of stuff happened. The C-5A had a monster problem with self-checking software that prevented mission capability. Sometimes a C-5 preflight would take almost 24 hours.

That isn't the news. The news is that, as the system matured, we got over it.

All-in-all I see this as a good argument to keep the pilot in the cockpit and not trust a mega-system to one missing bit.

15 posted on 04/29/2016 11:08:44 AM PDT by pfflier
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Does this mean the A10 wins the competition by default ?


16 posted on 04/29/2016 11:19:04 AM PDT by stylin19a
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If builders built buildings the way programmers write software, the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.


17 posted on 04/29/2016 11:21:27 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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Add [Ctrl] [Alt] [Delete] to those pilot’s checklists. Especially to the EMERGENCY PROCEDURES boldface while in a dogfight or taking evasive measures. Yikes!


18 posted on 04/29/2016 11:26:40 AM PDT by Skybird
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Nah, they’re just infiltrated by BAE, Northrop, Boeing, Raytheon, and (insert competitor/foreign entity here). Move along, nothing to see here.


19 posted on 04/29/2016 11:27:16 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Arm_Bears

An elephant, is a mouse designed to meet military specifications...


20 posted on 04/29/2016 11:28:28 AM PDT by AFret.
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