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Why Gold Bugs Need to Stop Listening to The Fear Mongers and Start Thinking for a Change
The Market Oracle ^ | 4-29-2016 | Sol_Palha

Posted on 04/29/2016 9:36:04 AM PDT by blam

April 27, 2016
Sol_Palha

We are still not convinced that Gold is fully out of the woods. Peter Schiff is busy telling everyone that it was a bad idea to have sold Gold in 2011, we beg to differ for the trend indicates otherwise, and so does the price of Gold. He is coming out with scary scenarios though they are not as grandiose as James Sinclair's scenario that calls for Gold to move to $50,000 an ounce. Even, when we dream we find it hard to envision such a price, so it is interesting that he can come up with such targets without being under the influence of some strong medicine.

This is nothing but fear mongering, and the markets are ruthless to those who are driven by fear or euphoria. If Gold were to trade to $50,000 an ounce, you would be living in a cave with bats and guns, as the world as you know it would have fallen apart. Individuals like this fool the idiotic fashion hard money crowd into thinking Gold is the solution to all their problems. We use the word fashion because they know just enough about hard money for it to be dangerous to their health and wealth.

As long as man does not evolve, man will find a way to rob from Peter and Paul. So Gold standard or rubbish standard matters not for you need to change the mindset of the beings that control either medium. A little knowledge is extremely dangerous and worse than ignorance and most of the hard money crowd understands next to nothing when it comes to Fiat money. That is why the Fed gave the hard money crowd a thrashing...

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KEYWORDS: commodities; gold; goldprice; preciousmetals; silver
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To: discostu

That is not a fact at all. Fiat money is currency made up by a government, not backed by anything of value. Gold is not nor has ever been fiat.


21 posted on 04/29/2016 5:39:38 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Sorry but gold, like every other currency, only has value because people are willing to take it in trade. Things of true intrinsic value would be useful when lost: food, shelter, tools. IE stuff we used to barter. Money exists to be an exchange layer on barter, so you don’t have to carry your chickens all over town. Anything useful, intrinsically valuable, innately makes bad money because you wind up using it for other stuff. Gold is the original fiat currency. But it was currency so long a lot of people have forgotten that it’s value is totally added by people.


22 posted on 04/30/2016 8:01:07 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: discostu

Gold has been globally recognized as a currency forever, so it does not fall under the definition of fiat. Fiat is produced by a government and does not have to be backed up by anything of value.

You are correct about the bartering and the reason for currency though. Food has a value but not a lasting value as it is consumed, the real value is the means to either produce or buy more food.


23 posted on 04/30/2016 8:30:48 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Not really forever. For a few thousand years, and a lot of the world found it completely uninteresting until Europeans got there. But it’s still fiat currency. All currency gains its value ENTIRELY from people’s willingness to accept it in exchange for good and services. Gold is NOT anything of value UNTIL there are other people willing to take it in exchange for goods and services, it IS fiat currency. ALL currency is fiat currency. Always has been, always will be.


24 posted on 04/30/2016 8:34:01 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: SamAdams76
It always amused me how gold dealers were always so willing to take my “soon to be worthless cash” in exchange for their “stable value” gold.

That's what makes me nervous sometimes. If they rejected Federal Reserve Notes altogether, and insisted on only accepting silver, platinum, bitcoin or barter, then they would seem more consistent. But, somehow, I am sure that might make others uncomfortable. LOL.

25 posted on 04/30/2016 8:38:10 AM PDT by RonPaulLives (Wake Up! Local, State and National GOP Lying, Cheating, Stealing in Conventions Since 2004.)
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To: blam

“The Market Oracle”?? Seems pedestrian enough to write articles and not rich enough not to.


26 posted on 04/30/2016 8:40:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: discostu

The Europeans? Maybe you should go back an read some more history. The definition of fiat money is that it is made by A GOVERNMENT AND NOT BACKED BY ANYTHING OF VALUE NECESSARILY. you are correct that nothing is of value if it can’t be traded, but you can’t just make up your own definition of fiat.


27 posted on 04/30/2016 9:14:27 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: discostu
◄ Genesis 2:12 ► King James Bible And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
28 posted on 04/30/2016 9:31:51 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Yes, the Europeans. A lot of the world saw gold as largely uninteresting and at best decorative before European brought their gold and silver obsessions to the area.

And gold MEETS that definition, it does NOT in and of itself have value. I’m not making up a definition, I’m pointing out a basic piece of reality that gold bugs refuse to understand:
unless somebody is willing to take it in trade gold is 100% WORTHLESS. It has no intrinsic value, gold coins pressed by the government are just as much fiat currency as dollars. The value of money comes EXCLUSIVELY from people being willing to take it, if it had value outside of that trade people wouldn’t be willing to use it as currency, they’d be too busy using it for its value.


29 posted on 04/30/2016 10:28:42 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: discostu

Guess you’re not a believer. I do ure you to read history farther back that European though. Good luck!


30 posted on 04/30/2016 10:37:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I believe in facts and history. I HAVE read history further back than Europe, that’s why I know much of the world found gold to be ornamental and not terribly valuable until colonization hit them. Suddenly having a bunch of people show up that really wanted their gold MADE gold valuable in that region. Prior to then it was often just a shiny metal, too soft to be useful.


31 posted on 04/30/2016 10:40:27 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks


32 posted on 05/03/2016 7:23:09 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 ("Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way arou)
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To: Mikey_1962

thanks


33 posted on 05/03/2016 7:24:53 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 ("Good people do not need laws, bad people will find a way around them" Plato)
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To: Mikey_1962

thanks


34 posted on 05/03/2016 7:24:57 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 ("Good people do not need laws, bad people will find a way around them" Plato)
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To: RedStateRocker; servantboy777

If you ARE holding the plutonium, I hope you already have all of the children you want! ;-P


35 posted on 05/03/2016 7:28:24 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: taxcontrol

Prepaid cards require registration now thanks to Obama.


36 posted on 05/03/2016 7:41:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: MortMan

Forgot to check the spell check. lol

And yes.....no mo chitlens for me.


37 posted on 05/03/2016 8:00:28 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

look at the lower right corner of the debt clock thats interesting.


38 posted on 05/09/2016 8:17:54 AM PDT by Therapsid (eagan)
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To: Therapsid
Interesting, i’ve never seen that before. Did they recently add this to the debt clock or I've just missed it?

Oh...I'm not the brightest bulb, what's it mean?

39 posted on 05/09/2016 9:51:54 AM PDT by servantboy777
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