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Embracing Catastrophic Plate Tectonics
Institute for Creation Research ^ | May 2016 | Tim Clarey, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/29/2016 8:22:42 AM PDT by fishtank

Embracing Catastrophic Plate Tectonics

by Tim Clarey, Ph.D. *

Evidence for Creation

Some Christians hesitate to embrace the notion that the earth’s outer surface is moving—and moved even more dramatically during the Flood year. However, tremendous amounts of empirical data suggest significant plate movement occurred just thousands of years ago.1 Much of these data are independent of secular deep time and the geologic timescale. In addition, the catastrophic plate tectonics (CPT) model offers a mechanism for the flooding of the continents, the subsequent lowering and draining of the floodwaters, and a cause for the post-Flood Ice Age.

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: platetectonics; tectonics

Image used in the ICR article.

1 posted on 04/29/2016 8:22:42 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

I think higher taxes will solve this problem.


2 posted on 04/29/2016 8:24:40 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: fishtank

Anymore the convoluted explanations and justifications for a young Earth are remarkably similar to the contortions and misrepresentations of so-called climate science.


3 posted on 04/29/2016 8:28:25 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: fishtank

Thanks for posting. I miss my Acts $ Facts magazine


4 posted on 04/29/2016 8:36:52 AM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: MeganC

There is climate science and then there is intentionally distorted PC climate speculation. Six thousand year plate tectonics is also an intentional misrepresentation that is impossible to even begin to comprehend. In short, it’s weird.


5 posted on 04/29/2016 8:36:57 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: minnesota_bound

The shifting of the tectonic plates along the San Andreas Fault would solve a lot of our political problems...:


6 posted on 04/29/2016 8:37:16 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MeganC
Earth are remarkably similar to the contortions and misrepresentations of so-called climate science.


7 posted on 04/29/2016 8:38:02 AM PDT by yoe (Carefully vet those for whom you plan to vote into office........)
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To: JimSEA

Just over a week ago I was standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon and was lost in wonder at the magnificence of my God who saw fit to plan that moment for me eons and eons before I was born.

A patient God who created the universe in less than a second (Big Bang) and who carefully took 15 billion years to fashion the world I know (just seven days to Him, of course) is to me a far greater God than some deceiver who would try to fool people into thinking that an ageless Creator has to hurry to keep up with OUR timetable.


8 posted on 04/29/2016 8:42:13 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MeganC

“Anymore the convoluted explanations and justifications for a young Earth are remarkably similar to the contortions and misrepresentations of so-called climate science.”

Excellent observation!


9 posted on 04/29/2016 8:44:32 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: MeganC

“A patient God who created the universe in less than a second (Big Bang) and who carefully took 15 billion years to fashion the world I know (just seven days to Him, of course) is to me a far greater God than some deceiver who would try to fool people into thinking that an ageless Creator has to hurry to keep up with OUR timetable.”

Just more evidence of people thinking that they/we are the focus, rather than God. God’s time is not our time.


10 posted on 04/29/2016 8:48:29 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: fishtank
...hesitate to embrace the notion that the earth’s outer surface is moving...

Notion? Really?

11 posted on 04/29/2016 8:52:07 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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To: LaRueLaDue

Here is the Big Bang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X41bA4l-h0w


12 posted on 04/29/2016 9:01:09 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: MeganC

Yes, God is big enough for a big, old universe. I don’t think God went around planting fossils as a practical joke or as some test of faith.


13 posted on 04/29/2016 9:39:56 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: fishtank

The main problem with a “young earth” is that it requires that God lied about the things that can be discovered from observing the universe. The problem with the “Big Bang” is that it requires infinities in the created universe.

There are two creation stories in Genesis for a reason. The first describes the creation of the universe out of nothing from the beginning. The second describes the creation of Adam and Eve who start CotU’s salvation plan for the creatures that He created. So we can have an “old” universe and a “young” salvation plan at the same time. We will first focus on the creation of the universe out of nothing from the beginning over what we would measure as a long time.

This concept is supported by the Scriptures, and is also supported by the writings of the Hebrew sages:

“According to the master Kabbalists, Rabbi Isaac of Acco, when counting the years of these [7000 year] cycles, one must not use an ordinary physical year, but rather, a divine year. The Midrash says that each divine day is a thousand years, basing this on the verse, “A thousand years in Your sight are as but yesterday” (Psalms 90: 4). Since each year contains 365 1/4 days, a divine year would be 365,250 years long. According to this, each cycle of seven thousand divine years would consist of 2,556,750,000 earthly years. This figure of two-and-a-half billion years is very close to the scientific estimate as to the length of time that life has existed on earth. If we assume that the seventh cycle began with the Biblical account of creation, then this would have occurred when the universe was 15,340,500,000 years old. This is very close to the scientific estimate that the expansion of the universe began some fifteen billion years ago.”
Kaplan, Aryeh (2004-03-15). Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice (Kindle Locations 3552-3559). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.

‘During the six days of creation described in the first chapter, G-d did not actually create the world, but rather, created the ingredients which would allow the world to develop. It thus refers to the creation of all matter, along with space and time. It was during these six days that G-d brought the universe into being from absolute nothingness. After these six days of creation, G-d allowed the universe to develop by itself, renewing His creation each seven thousand divine years or 2.5 billion earthly years. All the laws of nature and the properties of matter had been fixed for all time, as it is written, “He has established them forever; He has made a decree which shall not be transgressed” (Psalms 148: 6). It is similarly written, “Whatever G-d decrees shall be forever; nothing shall be added to it, and nothing shall be taken away” (Ecclesiastes 3: 14). ‘
Kaplan, Aryeh (2004-03-15). Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice (Kindle Locations 3564-3572). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.

Rabbi Acco made this calculation, based on the Torah, sometime between 1250 AD and 1340 AD more than 300 years before Sir Isaac Newton was born, and at least 600 years before Edwin Hubble proposed his theory of the expanding universe. The reason aligning the start of the seventh cycle of divine years with the second creation story is based on the rabbinical analysis described in Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice. Suffice it to say, but the rabbis could not have been adjusting their analysis to conform the yet to be determined modern scientific value!

So this is our first measurement. More than 600 years ago, the Holy Scriptures, as analyzed by people who really cared about finding the truth in them, reveal the age of the universe we can observe today.

In the twentieth century AD, it became obvious that energy and energy states were quantized and could be emitted or absorbed only in discrete units. However, the theories and equations that were developed regarded space and time as continuous and thus infinitely divisible. As a result of not having a minimum space-time unit all of these theories postulate infinities within the physical universe that have not been observed.

The current “Standard Model” for Quantum Mechanics compensates for this through a process called “renormalization” in which one subtracts a big infinity from a smaller infinity to get a measured answer. The “Big Bang Theory” says the universe started as a singularity, then the laws of physics were suspended for a while as everything expanded at faster than the speed of light. “Here the magic happens” is clearly only a “scientific” theory because it is proposed by “scientists.”

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. (Daniel 12:4)

Since we are near the time of the end, knowledge has increased! The Unified Field Theory proposed by Burkhard Heim (1925-2001) is a completely discrete theory that is based on the quantization of areas in multiple dimensions. It treats the universe as an accounting system, which is clearly in consonance with the Holy Scriptures, as we shall see. Originally proposed with six dimensions; it was later expanded into 12 dimensions to fully account for Quantum Mechanics. Heim calculated the mass values of the elemental particles using the 6-dimensional formulation and six experimentally measured fundamental constants, such as the speed of light in a vacuum, and arrived at values that were in good (!) agreement with observations.

Burkhard Heim arrived at a description of “the beginning” from the currently observed universe using logic and mathematics. He described the process he used in a presentation to the scientists at Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB) in Ottoburnn, Germany on November 25, 1976. An annotated transcript of the presentation and an English translation was produced by Olar Posdzech, Jim Graham, John Reed and Wilfried Kugel between 2000 and 2009. In this presentation, Heim derived the fundamental quantum of area which he called a “metron”.

In 1992, Tamar Auerbach explained the cosmology of Heim’s Theory as follows:

“In Heim’s theory both the metronic size, t, and the largest diameter D depend on the age of the universe. The dependence is such that D is expanding and t is contracting, so that D was smaller in the past and t was larger. It stands to reason that at one time in the distant past the surface area of a sphere of diameter D in our 3-dimensional world was equal to the size of t. This instant marks the origin of the universe and of time.
The mathematical relation between D and t is not simple, so that 3 different values of D are found to satisfy the criterion that the area of a sphere of diameter D be equal to t at the beginning of time. Evidently, the universe started as a trinity of spheres, whose diameters turn out to be (in meters):

D1 = 0.90992 m, D2 = 1.06426 m, D3 = 3.70121 m.

This trinity of spheres has important bearings on the structure of elementary particles.

From the first moment the universe began to expand, though at a slower rate than is presently predicted on the basis of the red shift of distant galaxies. Heim’s theory results in a present age of the universe approximately equal to 5.45 x 10107 years, and a diameter D of about 6.37 x 10109 light years. During most of its existence the universe consisted of an empty metronic lattice, whose metrons kept getting smaller as the universe grew larger. Eventually, metrons became small enough for matter to come into existence. This may have occurred some 15-40 billion (109) years ago, at which time matter was created throughout the volume of the universe. Hence, according to Heim matter did not originate very soon after a “big bang” explosion but more uniformly in scattered “fire-cracker” like bursts, perhaps of galactic proportions. Spontaneous uniform creation of matter, coupled with the partly attractive and partly repulsive force of gravity mentioned in Section 3 resulted in the observed large-scale galactic structure of the universe. Creation of matter continues to this day, though on a very much reduced scale.”
Heim’s Theory of Elementary Particle Structures, T. Auerbach and Illobrand von Ludwiger published by the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 6, No. 3, pp. 217-231, 1992

Heim’s Theory then starts in an analogous way to the way the Hebrew Sages explain it:

And He created His universe with three books (Sepharim), with text (Sepher) with number (Sephar) and with communication (Sippur).
Kaplan, Aryeh (2004-03-15). Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice (Kindle Locations 445-449). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.

Now the Sefer Yetzirah is said to be part of the oral Torah, but we don’t know for sure, so it should be treated as commentary. So we must look for a pattern in the Torah that matches Heim’s Theory in order to consider Heim’s theory a match for the first creation story. The amazing thing is that the Torah’s description of the creation of the Nation of Israel fits the pattern of these three spheres (books) and the organization of the dimensions used in Extended Heim Theory.

If we simply number the 12 sons of Jacob in the order they were born, we get the following:

x1 Gen 29:32 So Leah conceived and bore a son, and she called his name Reuben; for she said, “The LORD has surely seen my affliction. Now therefore, my husband will love me.”
x2 Gen 29:33 Then she conceived again and bore a son, and said, “Because the LORD has heard that I am unloved, He has therefore given me this son also.” And she called his name Simeon.
x3 Gen 29:34 She conceived again and bore a son, and said, “Now this time my husband will become attached to me, because I have borne him three sons.” Therefore his name was called Levi.
x4 Gen 29:35 And she conceived again and bore a son, and said, “Now I will praise Yahweh.” Therefore she called his name Judah. Then she stopped bearing.
x5 Gen 30:6 Then Rachel said, “G-d has judged my case; and He has also heard my voice and given me a son.” Therefore she called his name Dan.
x6 Gen 30:8 Rachel said, “With great wrestlings I have wrestled with my sister, and indeed I have prevailed.” So she called him Naphtali.
x7 Gen 30:11 Then Leah said, “A troop comes!” So she called his name Gad.
x8 Gen 30:13 Then Leah said, “I am happy, for the daughters will call me blessed.” So she called his name Asher.
x9 Gen 30:18 Leah said, “G-d has given me my hire [wages] because I have given my maid to my husband.” So she called his name Issachar.
x10 Gen 30:20b Leah said, “...now my husband will dwell with me, because I have borne him six sons.” So she called his name Zebulun.
x11 Gen 30:24 So she [Rebecca] called his name Joseph, and said, “The LORD shall add to me another son.”
x12 Gen 35:18 As her soul was departing (for she died), she [Rebecca] called his name Ben-Oni [son of my sorrow]; but his father called him Ben-Jamin.

There probably is some significance to the names themselves, but at this point I have only looked at the birth order and grouping related to the dimensions used in Extended Heim Theory.

Leah’s first three sons, Reuben, Simion, and Levi, represent the R3 (x,y,z) Spatial Dimensions. Her fourth son, Judah, represents T! (t) Time. Note that this associates the genealogy of Jesus with time!

Rachel’s maid, Bihah, two sons, Dan and Naphtali, represent S2 (x5, x6) the Structure dimensions. These are the dimensions that provide the electromagnetic force. Heim’s initial theory used only these six dimensions.

Leah’s maid, Zilpha, responds with two sons, Gad and Asher, who represent I2 (x7,x8) the Information dimensions.

The next four dimensions are called the God Dimensions because these dimensions contains structures that steer the events of the other dimensions. They are associated with Jacob’s two wives. Leah’s last two sons, Issachar and Zebulun, and Rachel’s two sons, Joseph and Benjamin represent G4 (x9,x10,x11,x12).

Once I recognized this pattern, it was apparent that the Three Spheres (Books) were symbolized by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

What are the chances of this happening if the Holy Scriptures are not the Word of YHWH, the True and Living God, Creator of the Universe?


14 posted on 04/29/2016 9:52:44 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: MeganC

I say the GC was formed a few thousand years ago, after a worldwide cataclysmic flood that was God’s judgment on a sinful human race.

I also say that Jesus died on a cross, 2000 years, when His Father punished His Own Son for the sins of the human race.


15 posted on 04/29/2016 10:04:08 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: JimSEA

Creationism is the use of science -

- to refute liberalism.


16 posted on 04/29/2016 10:05:00 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SubMareener

Thanks. That’ll have to be a big BFLR (bump for later reading....)


17 posted on 04/29/2016 10:06:16 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Good grief, are you still holding on to this old saw? Most of your leading-edge young-earthers will not touch this one any more than Humphreys’ “Starlight and Time” or Gold’s moon dust. Just another failed prediction of the young-earth paradigm.


18 posted on 04/29/2016 1:59:52 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Yes, “going around planting fossils” would make God a liar. I serve a God who does not lie.


19 posted on 04/29/2016 2:00:46 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: fishtank
In addition, the catastrophic plate tectonics (CPT) model offers a mechanism for the flooding of the continents, the subsequent lowering and draining of the floodwaters, and a cause for the post-Flood Ice Age.
as well as releasing enough energy in a geological instant, to parboiled all life on earth. So why aren't frozen mammoths pre-cooked? (then a miracle happened)
20 posted on 04/29/2016 7:13:02 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." - Karl Marx)
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