Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.
If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.
Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.
I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children. God will handle the children as He sees fit. It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children. It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.
One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference. Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others. We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system. This discussion is saved for another time. But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter. It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.
Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg. Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders. This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.
This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.
The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.
His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.
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Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.
Jonah is right. He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains. He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly. His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.
Not to worry, though. Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way. Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here. Trump is the topic. He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.
And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore. Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives? It still is.
And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.
Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil. And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.
Open wide, and suck it down. This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary. Own it. It’s yours. The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed. It’s no longer about him. Now it’s about you.
Reaganesque.
Some months ago I looked at both Cruz and Trump as acceptable candidates, even though they are very different.
Cruz has run a horrific campaign since then and many of his supporters need someone to blame. Cruz has only himself to blame.
So they blame Trump and anyone who will vote for him.
There are people who sit out every election, it’s not important. 35% of the electorate always sits out.
This Neil guy thinks policy talk matters. He’s way out of the loop and has no clue what’s going on.
And you’re not already disappointed that Cruz has revealed himself to be a Uniparty establishment shmuck?
Cruz is the biggest fraud since P.T. Barnum's, Jo-Jo the Dog-Faced Boy.
Yes and he has that knack with politicians, too!
What this entire political season has shown us is that "some folks can't deal" with the fact their best, deepest, most convinced opinions are WRONG, and when forced to face that fact turn into nasty, petulant brats every bit as vindictive and malicious as the liberals they despise.
>> Then you haven’t been paying attention these last nine months.
You got it, Windy.
We were all having a good time until the pissants decided to pick a fight.
And what exactly is their problem? Indelicacy?
I’m guessing the antagonists prefer the security of the Establishment.
“We have a chance to nominate the most conservative nominee since Calvin Coolidge.”
Do you really think Ted would be losing by Millions of votes if he we’re truly “the most conservative” candidate in the race? Really?
Open your eyes. The man is being roundly rejected by Republican voters for a reason. He’s not all he’s cracked up to be, and voters see it. So should you.
Very true. Not all people, but seemingly most. And once the investment has been made it's almost impossible to view politics objectively.
Saw it happen around here with Dubya, and it persisted all the way to '06, ending (for the most part) only after the disastrous midterms of that year. His impotent "hearts and minds" war, his importation of 200,000+ Muslims annually (which Obama has of course continued), and his refusal to protect the borders were all met with lame excuse after lame excuse for years by those whose emotional investment in him was high.
It’s been a brutal primary, that’s for sure.
I think the root of the problem is the depth of the anger people feel toward the government, but also towards the GOP for not doing what we sent them to do.
So now conservatives have had it and one group thinks that Trump is the solution to this, and others think that Cruz is the only solution to this, and both think that the guy that they do not support is a continuation of business as usual.
I don’t think that either man is the magic silver bullet that we are looking for, but for different reasons.
I do think that Cruz is not who he poses as. I do believe that he is of the GOPE, and what he did was he ran against the establishment and pretended to oppose them in order to advance his own career, and it worked.
Based upon things that I have seen him do starting with the Corker Bill and into this primary, I don’t believe he is on the level.
Trump, even though I like him very much for being not a politician, also does not fully understand, I believe, just how dangerous and malignant our government has become. I view our government as a malignant cancer, and I don’t think he sees it that way.
Nonetheless, I do believe that Trump is honest and honorable, and means and does what he says, so I am willing to give Trump a shot where I am not willing to give people who are of the GOPE a shot any longer.
Unfortunately, conservatives of both camps are now clashing, and we will either be able to come together, or we won’t.
I can’t see any reason to support Cruz any longer. He has proven that he cannot win this without a contested convention, and that is a place that I do not want to go, because that takes the power out of voters hands and puts it back in the hands of the GOPE.
I don’t see Cruz as being worth that risk.
That is where I am at on this.
I am assuming someone else has already forwarded this to Jim. No need to flood his inbox.
Hi Neil,
I feel much the same way. A New York liberal is not my idea of a conservative candidate and I will not vote for one. A couple of years ago anyone who claimed Trump was going to be the conservative’s champion would have been laughed off the board. Trump hasn’t changed. Many of the people here have.
So after more than 18 years of being a member of what is supposed to be a conservative constitutionalist Web site for people who have those principles in common I’m also done with it. It has left me.
Goodbye to all.
Between post #1 and Post #2 you’ve managed to do an awful lot of typing. In fact so much that I do not believe in a heartbeat that it was possible. Your complete presentation spells nothing less than a lifetime of nonsense. I wasted much time reading your diatribe but I’m glad I did because it proves to me that there are some real sore losers in our beloved USA. I hope you find peace in yourself someday.
>I will say it again....we are all going to be very disappointed.
I already am in Cruz. I’m not going to pick a rotten apple over a healthy apple just because it might go rotten too.
In what way has Cruz exposed the GOPe? Hell, he's depended on the GOPe and back-room shenanigans to keep him in the race, which, frankly, he should not be in since he has no mathmatical way forward.
I think what we have learned clearly through this process is that Cruz is not anything like he was presenting himself. As far as I'm concerned, he is condescending, preaches at others, cannot talk like normal human beings, cannot be depended on to tell the truth, and he is establishment to the core; just more sneaky than most.
Agreed. Everything you said. BTTT.
Raising a 9 iron in the middle of a lightning storm.
Nice.
Some like it zot.
Gee, that makes us all feel so much better.
Hey, I have an idea!
How about we run the best candidate in the field?
How about we run the best candidate, a man who can make demographic inroads that Ted Cruz could only dream of?
How about we run the best candidate and actually create an inclusive, principled "big tent" lkike the leadership is always talking about, and in doing so relegate the Democrat party to minority status for years to come?
How about we run the best candidate, who already has almost twice the delegates if Cruz, in addition over 3 million votes more cast for him than for Ted Cruz?
How about we run the best candidatee who is the clear choice of the People, who merits the nomination hands down?
If you somehow think the dynamic is suddenly going to change, or unicorns will start farting skittles that make the GOP electorate forget everything that has happened over the last year, then you're so detached from political reality that you've become an unwitting dupe of the corrupt GOPe.
Vote Trump
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