Supporters cheer for republican presidential candidates Donald Trump Posted on 04/23/2016 2:49:35 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Supporters cheer for republican presidential candidates Donald Trump
Donald Trump may be the only Republican presidential candidate who can realistically hit the magic 1,237 number for the majority of delegates, but according to a senior Republican National Committee official that does not mean he will become the GOP presidential nominee.
Curly Haugland, a longstanding RNC official and an unbound delegate from North Dakota who will be on the convention rules committee in July, told CNBC that attaining 1,237 during the primaries does not secure the nomination.
"Even if Trump reaches the magic number of 1,237 the media and RNC are touting, that does not mean Trump is automatically the nominee," Haugland said. "The votes earned during the primary process are only estimates and are not legal convention votes. The only official votes to nominate a candidate are those that are cast from the convention floor."
Haugland explained the primary number is really an estimate. That's because the eligibility of some delegates in how they are voted in could be questioned and their status may not be considered valid, Haugland said.
"Remember every state has a different delegate allocation process," he said. "Delegates are picked up in state contests that can be winner take all, open primaries, and remember there are seven states that allow the candidates to pick their own delegates. Until those delegate challenges are settled, there is no 1,237."
Haugland said he expects the delegates won in winner-take-all states to be most likely challenged. House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI). RNC shoots down plan to shift power to the delegates
Hitting 1,237 in the primaries does not mean the candidate would automatically become the GOP presidential nominee.
"You become the presumptive nominee when you get 1,237 bound delegates," RNC spokesman Lindsay Walters told CNBC. "You officially become nominee when you have 1,237 votes on the floor of the convention."
Trump has been contesting the delegate appropriation methods, accusing the Ted Cruz campaign of stealing delegates in Louisiana and Colorado. The Trump campaign has said it is considering challenging the seating of the Colorado delegation at the July convention. In March, a Trump senior adviser confirmed the campaign was moving on its plan to contest delegates in Louisiana after Trump won the state's primary but received fewer delegates than Cruz.
The Trump campaign did not immediately return a request for comment about Haugland's assertions.
This moron clearly does not know that delegates are pledged on the first ballot. That means if Trump reaches 1,237 before the convention he must win on the first ballot, unless the rules are changed to either make the delegates unpledged on the first ballot or to raise the winning threshold. Either such change would be political suicide for the Republican Party.
Haugland said he is a member of the rules committee at the convention and he wants a rule change at the convention so that any candidate who got even a single vote could be nominated. I deduce from that position that he is not a Trump or Cruz supporter. The only candidate that rule change benefits is Kasich.
So to paraphrase:
Getting 1,237 delegates does not mean that you have the nomination. At least not until the 1,237 delegates have a chance to vote. So when they do vote, then you will be the nominee.
Semantics and much todo about nothing we didn’t already know.
Trump Aide to Hill GOP: Nomination Will Be Locked Up By June (target is 1,265) http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/14/politics/donald-trump-hill-republicans-june/index.html
“The Republican party will cease to exist.”
Certainly if the vestige of the GOP exists in 2020 it can save the donors, the party, the states, and the candidates considerable money by not going through the charade of having primaries or a convention. The top 50 donors should just meet at an exclusive resort (not a Trump resort) or in the boardroom at Goldman Sachs, and pick the nominees.
When I voted Ben Carson was on the ballot, why? Trickery and dastardly deeds
The clown is a loud mouth. Ignore his psywar trash talking. Trump have the voters. Nobody else does. Trump wins.
“Curly”..
We also have to back it up by throwing out the GOPeahens in Congress.
Seems like they really do mean to steal the nomination from Trump and p*ss in the collective face of the American voter.
Email me, ya big PUSSY..! curly@recsupply.com
Or CALL ME, soon as I finish HUMPING YER MOM...!
(701) 255-2427
Deep down I know you actually LIKE all this...
We at the GOP are doing WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU.
Cuz ya don't know what's good for you, while you're staggering around town, cross-eyed and with a big WET SPOT on the front of yer trousers....
Good point.
I forgot about Kasich. So waiting with baited breath for both to denounce this arrogant hack.
And this is why we hate the GOPe
That's not what he's saying.
Haugland is, instead, pointing out that the media's count on delegates is, in actuality, an estimate. A damn close one, but an estimate nonetheless.
The real count is the eventual count on the convention floor, which could vary from the media count slightly -- one way or the other.
Unbound delegates can change their minds (or be mis-estimated), other delegates can be challenged and removed due to defective credentials, e.g.
Haugland is NOT claiming that, if Trump actually receives 1237 delegate votes on the floor, he would be denied the nomination.
You asked the right questions there.
The answer sure suck.
Well after all, that’s what they will have wound up doing this year. (if that comes to pass)
Just eliminate the primaries and caucuses and make the call. The outcome will not have changed.
You’re right.
We could replace our side of the house in two years.
We could replace 1/3rd of our side of the Senate in two years.
What would remain would be listening. That’s for damn sure.
That’s what I’m saying.
The closer Trump gets to the nomination, the more you will hear these kinds of knashing and grinding of teeth from the GOP cartel. The delegates are bound on the first ballot. If they steal it, there will be no Republican party any longer!
Just because Donald Trump has been president for eight years does not mean we endorse him, said Flackley Flackenson of the Former Relevant Party.
No, he’s saying more than that. He’s saying Trump delegates could be challenged as unofficial or illegitimate delegates. Trump also plans on challenging delegates during the certification process.
It’s the certification process that he is talking about.
Haugland is an a-hole regardless. He’s the one that told Becky Quick on CNBC that it’s a good question as to why even have voters participate in a GOP primary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Vv4kRTPLI
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