Which woman is living 'sustainably'?

wnd.com ^ | 4/23/2016 | Patrice Lewis

[rktman]

I got a phone call from my old friend “Jane” this week. Jane and I went to high school together. We’ve kept in touch over the years as our lives took radically different directions. She became a city mouse: got married, moved to Seattle and became very involved in the sustainable movement. I became a country mouse: got married, moved to a small farm in Idaho and helped start a woodcraft business. Jane’s burning ambition is to get me to live as sustainable a life as she does. She can’t understand why I don’t embrace her vastly superior green lifestyle.

[elcid1970]

“...well, you know where those eggs COME OUT OF, don’t you?”

My favorite Huey Long joke: the Kingfish was noted for frequenting the fanciest New Orleans restaurants, but one day he sauntered into a delicatessen & asked what sounded good for lunch. The owner recommended a beef tongue sandwich on kosher rye.

Huey Long was appalled; “You think I’m gonna eat something what came out of some animal’s mouth!? You go fry me a couple eggs!”

;^)

[FateAmenableToChange]

Patrice and family really seem to have their stuff together. I wish I had 10% of their energy and drive to be as self-sufficient as possible.

[VTenigma]

LOL

[Secret Agent Man]

Smug.

South Park episode 2, season 10.

Well worth 20 minutes and they go after George Clooney too.

[5th MEB]

I don’t know where you are in NV, but I live about 200 miles from the Sacramento/San Joaquin delta.
About every three or four weeks I load my traps in the truck and head on down.
Bait the traps with liver and check them in the morning.
Usually get back home with a couple of hundred live mudbugs.
Toss what I am not going to use right away in the pond.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

I don’t know what Seattle does to people.

I have a young relative who recently married & moved to Seattle. She never mentioned politics until she moved there. Now she gets on Facebook, pleading for the U.S. to accept the poor “refugees” & how Bernie Sanders can bring Americans together.

I heard through other relatives that her Father told her to quit posting that tripe, lol. She was pissing off other members of the family. She’s the only liberal in the family, thank goodness.

[rktman]

Reno. So about the same distance. We must be close.

[5th MEB]

Most city folks don’t realize just how much back breaking work it is to raise your own fruits, vegetables, and livestock. I don’t even want to talk about felling timber, bucking it up to dry properly, then splitting it for the fire place.
I retired 7 years ago to my small farm, and now I work about 14 to 16 hours a day, EVERY DAY.
Don’t get me wrong; I love what I am doing now, and wouldn’t trade it for any wage job on earth.
But it ain’t for pussies, the weak, or anybody without a lot of self motivation.

[5th MEB]

Hayfork,Ca.
Bout the same distance I think.
Make sure you get a state fishing license; never seen a game warden yet, but you never can tell.

[Twinkie]

You’re probably doing more than we are doing. Fang has
had his raised beds & organic garden for a long time. I’m
actually surprised he ever agreed to fool with that.
Your chickens sound great. We’ve got too many wild critters
around here to be able to have chickens. Too many snakes.
The firewood helps. Fang burns one of those log things to
clean out the creosote every year. (I couldn’t deal with
the wood fire if I were left by myself. Maybe a wood fire
every now and then; but not as often as we have had them
for the past 17 years.) We get frozen pizzas now. I miss
Pizza Hut; but that’s few & far between these days. We
live too far out for delivery. (Fang also has the wire
brushes to clean out the stovepipe from time to time.)
Be happy today!

[rktman]

Oh yeah, the elusive game wardens. You only see them when you don’t want to. LOL!

[Califreak]

My husband was telling me they can get a full charge for under two dollars.

If that’s true, it must be heavily subsidized.

You can’t run a space heater for that and I would imagine one of those golf carts uses a whole lot more power.

[Reeses]

the vast majority of eco oriented liberals crowd themselves into congested urban areas

Around the world as population density increases gradually so does leftism. The consistent relationship between population density and leftism is not just a correlation but evidence of causation. No self respecting libtard moves just half the way towards the nearest big city, yet half the way there you will find about 50% libtards. While some libtards move into congested cities on purpose, most libtardism is actually caused over time by living there. The push to force everyone to move into cities is a leftist plot by the Democrat Central Planning Committee to increase power.

[Reeses]

Cities, with people crammed into small apartments in big apartment buildings and few owning cars, tend to be lower energy consumers per capita than more sprawling environments.

Compare apples to apples. People don't need a big city to increase their energy efficiency. Country people can move into a 500 square foot compartment too. For an equivalent quality of life though, living in a big city is less energy efficient than living in the suburbs. As a rule of thumb, price is a surprisingly accurate proxy for energy consumption. Big city living is both more expensive and more energy consuming on an apples to apples basis.

If government transportation were at all energy efficient, the taxpayers wouldn't need to subsidize 90% of the fare to get people to ride it. Government transportation in general is *NOT* energy efficient, nor is it a pleasant quality of life experience.

[minnesota_bound]

Google: Seattle hipsters
Click on images. Very weird people in Seattle.

[9YearLurker]

But that’s not apples to apples. 4000 square feet ACed to the max and a couple of SUV
s in the garage is not something that many people who live in the City feel a need or have a capacity for.

And yes, the NYC subway system is not only more efficient per energy miles than those SUVs out in typical traffic, but also big cities enable much shorter commutes for many more people.

Got any data for your claims?

Here’s some that concludes otherwise:

http://www.academia.edu/5332884/Residential_Energy_Use_and_the_City-Suburb_Dichotomy

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/greenest_place_in_the_us_its_not_where_you_think/2203/

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/the-comparatively-green-urban-jungle/?_r=0

http://www.frameworkhomeownership.org/blog/which-location-is-greener-city-or-suburb

[HotHunt]

From Wikipedia: "The introduction of residential air conditioning in the 1920s helped enable the great migration to the Sun Belt in the US."

And I'm sure it was very "comfortable" in that Louisiana mugginess in the dead of summer without the air conditioning. But you use air conditioning now don't you? It's a modern convenience that makes life easier to bear in the heat and humidity.

I also grew up in the 60's in the Sonoran Desert of Arizona. The heat was brutal there but without the humidity. I live in Florida now and miss that "dry heat" every summer here.

[Baynative]

WA Ping

I think the pressure for conformity grows when the population tips over 505 and at that point those who dare to challenge the status quo are treated with disdain, if not hostility.

But for the liberals, the webs they weave sometimes have a way of entangling themselves. -

[mdmathis6]

If ROI on solar systems was the only thing to consider when buyng them then yes, one might not consider buying them,...but consider the ROI when the grid goes down and the economy goes to crap....and one can power lights, water pumps, and needed tools....just sayin.....

[Fhios]

Well then my 10kw generator kicks in. 1/4 the price of a solar installation.