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The Convention Could Very Well Prove to Be a RUN-OFF Election That Trump Could Very Well LOSE
self | 04/22/16 | the_doc

Posted on 04/22/2016 1:24:48 PM PDT by the_doc

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To: Lakeshark

You might be correct about the first ballot victory. Please cut out the “delusional” epithet.


161 posted on 04/22/2016 8:10:20 PM PDT by the_doc
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To: the_doc

I don’t gripe or cry. It is on Trump or whoever to make their own way. There are types of fraud I consider unacceptable, and some that are illegal. I don’t pretend that kind of thing doesn’t happen, but the bottom line is that fraud is fraud.

It really has been a mathematical impossibility for Cruz to win for a while now, given other viable candidates pulling in votes, but it certainly is now.

Even a 2nd round win is extremely improbable given he’d need even more delegates than he doesn’t have now.

That said, I’m not pleased with any of them.


162 posted on 04/22/2016 8:14:35 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: the_doc
The point of my essay, which you have overlooked, is that Trump is not yet the obvious choice. Democracy, if you like, is a matter of majority rules, not plurality rules.

I didn't overlook your essay, I rejected it.

We're not a democracy, we're a representative constitutional republic. That would be your best argument, were you to use it as a premise.

163 posted on 04/22/2016 8:20:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: the_doc
If you actually do the math, and look at the state by state polls and delegate count accumulation, there is not anything incorrect about saying those who are claiming there will be a second ballot are delusional.

In the true spirit of PC, I'll just use the words mentally challenged from now on, okay?

Because math is hard........

164 posted on 04/22/2016 8:28:03 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: the_doc; Jim Robinson

>>There are a LOT of NeverTrump guys in the Party now. Mark Levin is one. I am another one. Maybe you guys would try to blame us for Trump losing to Hillary. Ah, but we would blame you guys for nominating an insufferable phony like Trump.


I thought the owner of this site made it clear that he does not wish to have NeverTrump posters continue with their undermining of the RNC front runner, DJT.

Did he change his mind? If not, why are you deliberately posting your NeverTrump words?


165 posted on 04/22/2016 8:30:14 PM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: the_doc

nice opus.

bye.


166 posted on 04/22/2016 9:05:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: the_doc
Respectfully submitted, FWIW.

So, you found out.

167 posted on 04/22/2016 9:12:09 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: the_doc
Great Post, but they refuse to listen.

May your path be made clear

168 posted on 04/22/2016 9:31:57 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: Lakeshark

Then so does Trump cause he said all of them recently


169 posted on 04/22/2016 9:43:35 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
Actually here's what he said about Planned Parenthood: He says he hates abortion, and if they don't stop they should be defunded. He also said they've done other good things in women's health, such as promote check ups and mammograms. The idea that means he supports abortion is a lie. But I realize it's a Cruzer talking point, so I am so sorry.

Concerning LBGT: He never said he supports their cause, not once. If you watch the actual video, he never says he wants perverts in bathrooms, but then that's another Cruzer talking point, so I am so sorry.

He said he thought hedge fund managers should pay more tax, because they have a major loop hole that other wealthy people don't. He didn't ever say he wanted to raise taxes on all the wealthy, never said it. Once again, I am so sorry if that messes up the talking points.

Now I realize you believe the talking points, but they maliciously misrepresent what he actually said, I think some people would call that lying.

But then, knowing who they come from, I'm not surprised.

170 posted on 04/22/2016 9:55:03 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: the_doc

You are entitled to your opinion, and I don’t need you to tell me what I need to do. You’re just wrong.


171 posted on 04/22/2016 10:43:04 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: the_doc

According to what’s been stated many times.....anything less then the required threshold is ‘contested’ per the RNC


172 posted on 04/22/2016 11:02:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: the_doc; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; SaveFerris; ...
How'd your radiation therapy go 'doc'?

Don't feel bad, Hiroshima never saw it comin' either:

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173 posted on 04/22/2016 11:16:44 PM PDT by mkjessup (Cruz is an oily crap weasel who sold out to the GOPe and his deluded cultists need to wake-TF up.)
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To: mkjessup

Another? Guess not many read that 1,200+ post thread.


174 posted on 04/22/2016 11:22:42 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: altura
It's going to get interesting as will the more reasonable Trump supporters continue to support him as he moves further left on all of the issues. I've seen some pretty disgusted people more than a little upset with his last “deal” over the Trans-gender bathroom issue he spouted, put them over the edge as some say...enough is enough and they're through with him..

Manafort didn't do Trump any service either by stating he has two personalities and the first one is for show..... But I wasn't surprised Trump sent Manafort to the Florida meeting....he's avoiding any political leadership gatherings that requires his coming clean on just exactly what political platform he's standing on........he cannot say he's Representing the Republican Platform without defining to those he's accountable to just what that is......so he's dodging this as well as any further debates.

His mask is beginning to fall off because you cannot maintain that persona indefinitely without cover....thus Manafort and others are speaking for him and he's sending surrogates like Carson in his place. I suspect the next move he makes before long will be refusing altogether to meet with the RNC....with the excuse everything is rigged to his supporters. He'd be a fool to do that but I honestly wouldn't put that past him in order to continue his "performance".

175 posted on 04/22/2016 11:29:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: the_doc; mkjessup

176 posted on 04/23/2016 12:17:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

OMG!

Where’d you find that image of libbylu? LOL


177 posted on 04/23/2016 12:20:09 AM PDT by mkjessup (Cruz is an oily crap weasel who sold out to the GOPe and his deluded cultists need to wake-TF up.)
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To: caww

I know you think the Cruz talking points are from above, but kindly listen to this video of the original “Transgender” conversation. The one that all cruzers claim as proof that Trump endorsed them, and wants dirty old men to invade little girls on the potty. I’m sorry, if you believe that after listening to the original conversation (start at 16:50 or thereabouts), then I have a Nigerian account for you to deposit a small amount of money that will get you meeelions in return: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em5o7udaDig


178 posted on 04/23/2016 12:21:02 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; P-Marlowe
Nothing burger.

I said that to a crazy Cruzer earlier, I think JR plagiarized that..............:-)

Great minds and all that.

179 posted on 04/23/2016 12:23:11 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: sargon

....”Trump’s voters are furious and we’re loaded for bear, and if he’s denied the nomination and supplanted by some clown who arrives with half as many delegates, there’s gong to be a civil war, a splintered party, destroyed voter enthusiasm, countless Trump voters staying home, and a Hillary Clinton Presidency in November”.....

Nobody has denied Trump anything regarding this nomination....if this goes to convention the game changes because Convention rules are based on ‘delegate votes’, not on the ‘popular vote’.

Had and if Trump meets the magic number before convention well then he’s won not lost and game is over. He’s the nominee. No need for convention.


180 posted on 04/23/2016 12:42:19 AM PDT by caww
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