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Obama Administration Tells Supreme Court 'Lawfully' Doesn't Mean 'Legally'
Cybercast News Service ^ | April 20, 2016 | 4:44 AM EDT | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 04/20/2016 2:56:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai

“Lawfully” does not mean “legally.”

Welcome to what Solicitor General Donald Verrilli told the Supreme Court on Monday is the “immigration world.” Or, more accurately, welcome to the new world President Barack Obama — through his solicitor — is asking the Supreme Court to join him in declaring. […]

“Aliens with lawful status under the [Immigration and Nationality Act] are here lawfully; their presence therefore is not a basis for removal,” said Obama’s solicitor in his brief. “By contrast, mere ‘lawful presence’ occurs when the Executive ‘openly tolerate[s] an undocumented alien’s continued presence in the United States for a fixed period (subject to revocation at the agency’s discretion),’ notwithstanding that the alien lacks lawful status and is present in violation of the law.”

So in the words of Obama’s own solicitor: An “undocumented alien” whom the administration grants “lawful presence” remains “present in violation of the law. …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; donaldverilli; doublespeak; executiveamnesty; lawfully; obama; solicitorgeneral; supremecourt; wordgames
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To: Olog-hai

George Orwell nailed it in “1984”. He was just 32 years early.


21 posted on 04/20/2016 4:57:03 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

>Selective enforcement of laws leads to chaos.

When the # of ‘laws’ become greater than the pages of the printed Britannica...Like any other ‘make work’ project, govt *must* justify its existence.

Can’t have the masses knowing they CAN live w/out govt!

>But this is what the left wants so they are consistent.

Did I miss the borders being sealed after 9/11?? Wasn’t Mr. Cruz giving out balls/teddies? Mr. Rubio giving a speech in English saying one thing and in Spanish another?

Sorry, this isn’t a Left v. Right problem here. This is THEM (govt/donors) v. We the People.


22 posted on 04/20/2016 5:10:43 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ll bet Roberts sides with Obama and the New World Order


23 posted on 04/20/2016 5:51:56 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: Olog-hai

The sad truth of the matter is that this is EXACTLY what lawyers do for a living.


24 posted on 04/20/2016 6:15:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

Lawyers doing what lawyers do - splitting legalistic hairs.


25 posted on 04/20/2016 6:42:13 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I would HOPE the Supreme Court slaps that argument silly on a 8-0 vote


26 posted on 04/20/2016 6:47:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump / ???)
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To: i_robot73

Sorry, this isn’t a Left v. Right problem here. This is THEM (govt/donors) v. We the People


One of the key points in the novel 1984 was the discovery that the resistant movement was actually government controlled. With tin hat firmly on my head I am beginning to wonder if the whole “left/right” thing is not being controlled by someone or something “behind the curtain”.

Perhaps the real power in the world is in the shadow dividing and conquering people around the world.

I guess the real question is, who benefits from the chaos around the world?


27 posted on 04/20/2016 7:00:01 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I think it would be ironic if Hillary was arrested the day after she secures the nomination.)
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To: cincinnati65
So let me see if I've got this right. You're saying it's like you're going to a prison to visit someone with a day pass. With the day pass, you are there "lawfully".

Now once inside the prison, you hide and are there long after your day pass expires. You are now there "illegally".

The problem with the argument is yes, you may be granted "lawful purpose" to enter, but once you've stayed beyond that "lawful purpose", you are here both illegally and unlawfully.

It's more pernicious than that. In Obamaland, you can tunnel under the wall into the prison, hide out for an unspecified period of time, and once discovered be declared lawful, whether or not you ever had permission to enter the prison to begin with.

28 posted on 04/20/2016 7:14:46 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah. I read through the oral arguments a couple of days ago. That was a really bizarre exchange, and it went on longer than usual. Clearly more than one justice had issues with the government’s position on it, and the State of Texas had a pretty good argument against the feral government’s position.


29 posted on 04/20/2016 7:26:30 AM PDT by zeugma (Vote Cruz!)
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To: Olog-hai

The U.S. Code defines the term “illegal alien”, and the unlawful acts performed by them and to them (e.g. unlawful to ‘aid and abet’, like giving them a ride in a car).

Congress has power to determine immigration policy in the enumerated powers of the Constitution. Hussein Obama’s job is to enforce those policies, not make up his own.


30 posted on 04/20/2016 8:09:57 AM PDT by RideForever (OldMainframer)
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To: Olog-hai

Verrilli has a worse won-loss record than a St. Louis Browns pitcher!


31 posted on 04/20/2016 8:20:04 AM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: All

L’Etat c’est Moi.


32 posted on 04/20/2016 11:32:24 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (He is pure malevolence)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

>Perhaps the real power in the world is in the shadow dividing and conquering people around the world.

You mean, like the FBI/CIA infiltrating, watching and pushing various Constitutional, let alone anti-govt, groups. The files v. MLK, Weaver and, most likely, the recent BLM. That’s just U.S. based, not the ‘we’ll back the Turds vs. XYZ’ or working against Asaad...the whole M.E. fuster cluster of the past 40+ yrs.

>>I guess the real question is, who benefits from the chaos around the world?

Aside from the power/control of govt as they consolidate against the ‘divisive’ elements they helped created? Or the govt-war-industrial complex, or...


33 posted on 04/21/2016 6:06:20 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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