Can we (calmly) talk about this delegate selection process?

Hot Air blog ^ | April 13, 2016 | Jazz Shaw

[pogo101]

I'm a Cruz guy, but I agree with Jazz Shaw: some of these states' delegate-choosing rules are stupid, even if they now are benefitting Cruz (who knows the rules).

[Homer1]

As one who is sick of Iowa and Bew Hampshire getting an outsized say in these elections, I’m hoping for a major overhaul

[Utmost Certainty]

They should just have all states do their primaries on the same day. Be done with this ridiculous, dragged-out process altogether.

[Talisker]

...if the existing rules wind up allowing Ted Cruz to come out of Cleveland as the nominee, many of us will be happy with the result even if we lose so many voters in November that Hillary effectively runs unopposed.

Money quote.

GFY Jazz Shaw

[DoughtyOne]

Knock off the rigged Caucuses.

Work to make each state party only Primaries.

No crossover voting!

Then let the voters duke it out.

Give 60% to the winner, and let the other delegates go to the winners of each district.

Then let the chips fall where they will.

[glock rocks]

Where do you get off interjecting sense into this hockey game? :o)

[pogo101]

Yes, that’s another thing I dislike: why are a few states always first? It should rotate so that, over a typical voter’s lifetime, every state has its turn to be one of the first few. No offense to IA, NH or SC, but it’s not ALWAYS their turn.

[Dr. Sivana]

I'm a Cruz guy, but I agree with Jazz Shaw: some of these states' delegate-choosing rules are stupid, even if they now are benefitting Cruz (who knows the rules).

Agreed, and if complaints about North Dakota and COlorado were lodged back in September, it wouldn't seem like whining.

The problem is we Republicans LIKE a decentralized system, wheer each state can pick its own rules. The RNC has tried to herd the states, by putting in disincentives from going to early, etc., but its mostly a state run thing.

Any system will have its problems in the right set of circumstances. IF you had all the delegates bound forever, and you had three candidates going into the convention and no one drops out, how do you get a nominee? This is a bad year to try to bring in someone new at the convention, especially with 17 trying to feed from the trough, but other years, when you have two diametrically opposed candidates splitting the lion's share of delegates (more diamterically opposed than even Trump and Cruz, more like Reagan and Weicker), there has to be a way to break the logjam, and it has to be personal. There also has to be a way to deal with the candidate who really DOES shoot someone on 5th Avenue, or gets indicted, or otherwise shows himself unfit late if the game.

This convention with these delegates (Trump and Cruz could be a good time to plan for 2020, if there were only time). A national primary would solve some problems, but make true insurgencies even harder. It also isn't all bad that these guys get put through the wringer a bit.

[Savage Rider]

Here are my proposed rules for all states: all closed primaries and you have to register at least six months before election day; early voting only 7-10 days before election; voting starts in January and only one state per day may vote; and all proportional allocation of delegates with no unbound delegates. Actual election of delegates as currently done is fine with me.

[DoughtyOne]

Well, I admit it did take me thirty seconds.

Seems like four times the amount of time it took the RNC to come up with what the caucus states have now.

I know states come up with their own process, and I want to respect that. I don’t any opposition individual can say they agree with some of the shenanigans that took place this year.

It needs to be cleaned up.

!00% of the delegates in one state heavily favored by the GOPe? Come on folks.

This is a result only a Democrat could defend.

[seawolf101]

It is all designed to give the elites complete control and the nominees are all beholden to the Elites. Nowadays in this country voting is a waste of time. The elections are rigged at all levels. I think that Russia has cleaner national elections than the USA does now. It is really disgusting to see what goes on.

The founding fathers were right, but then who bothers reading history books. Everybody just wants free stuff.

[xenia]

The rules wont be changed.....they are working the way the elite wants them to. They want it this way.

[Mastador1]

They should just have all states do their primaries on the same day. Be done with this ridiculous, dragged-out process altogether.

And all under the exact same rules,then all this animosity and cheating accusations would be gone....well the cheating accusations anyway, and no state would be more important than the other except for the delegate count.

[glock rocks]

Look at my silly state. They voted for Romney - again! I understand it’s considered some sort of tithe, but I’d have to consult Beck.

Unnumbered, uncounted caucus ballots printed on PCs in the back room when they ran low. Internet primary votes counted by who?

Welcome to Utah. Set your watch back 20 years.

[DoughtyOne]

LOL, I hear ya.

Some of our people their and others reports from various states reveal those processes to be shaky as well.

If they were handled properly, even then this delegate vote for a lot of other people seems wrong.

Why shouldn’t millions vote instead of just hundreds?

At any rate, I agree with your take on it.

[pogo101]

You need a sarcasm tag. Some Trump folks would actually say those sorts of things, sad to say.

[cuban leaf]

I don’t pay much attention to this theater. On election day I’ll go into the ballot box and vote for Cruz, whether he’s on the ballot or not.

[Logical me]

How can any sane person not complain with the RNC and the rotten corrupt nomination process. This one is for the President of the United States. And this shi! most of the States have is a rotten joke. Some damn system when some of the states do not even ask the voters but they set up a few delegates to make that determination. No better than any communists Country. I guess it’s alright since the brain Rush likes it.

[dynoman]