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Sanders' Proposal Sets a Dangerous Precedent
Townhall.com ^ | April 7, 2016 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 04/07/2016 7:00:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: goodnesswins

I have a seven year old cat that stayed by my side though a five year recovery. He’s my best buddy.

I think your trying to help her in every way is great.

Gabapentin did have effects the first few nights but my body gets used to things so quickly.

She can be put on VERY high doses of it without any ill effects. It can not hurt her.

I am sorry and will pray for her. She is one of God’s creatures.


21 posted on 04/07/2016 7:23:45 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Unfortunately, price controls, in whatever form, will be necessary for medicines. While the drug companies may be entitled to $50.00 per pill they are NOT entitled to $750.00 per pill.

To which I must rhetorically retort, "What medicine?" If it costs 100's of millions in R&D to create a drug, but companies cannot recoup that cost plus make a profit, there will be no new drugs available for the consumer to buy. Someday your child or grandchild might develop a nasty MRSA infection, which few drugs are effective against. We desperately need new antibiotics to fight this and other resistant bacteria, but since there is little profit in this class of drug, we are seeing little research and precious few new drugs in this class come to market. With price controls, that situation will spread across all classes of drugs.

22 posted on 04/07/2016 7:24:43 AM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

If the government is willing to steal the property of others then they should be willing to buy the rights to the drug from the owner if he is willing to sell. The price of T-Bones is too high would you force butchers to0 sell it for $1 a pound?


23 posted on 04/07/2016 7:27:59 AM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: baltimorepoet

?Why would you drown yourself in a reservoir that is probably used for drinking water for others?
And why force someone else to haul your body in?
You can drown in 3” of water in your own home and not bother others .Don’t be a coward.


24 posted on 04/07/2016 7:31:05 AM PDT by RWGinger (Does anyone else really)
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To: ctdonath2
All those using the R & D argument fail to do the simple math. If a pill costs $50.00 and a million pills are sold per month times 12 months per year costs and profit would be recovered long before the patent protection expires. The $750 per pill price is simple greed.(In my hypothetical which is based upon a recent real world example.)

Number two; the argument 'I can do what I want with my property' is simply unreal as no legal system allows an owner to harm others with his property. I build a dam on my property that bursts and floods your land destroying your house, crops and animals, am I therefore free of any responsibility by interposing the idiot argument; 'it's my land and I can do what I please.'

25 posted on 04/07/2016 7:34:49 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: AndyJackson
Agreed. Most of those using the "private Property" argument are mixing up market and commodity models. In addition there is the legal doctrine which says; 'no man can use his property to harm others.' One can adjust the price via the patent procedure, subsidies etc.

Different principles apply to the sale of a product when lives hang in the balance.

26 posted on 04/07/2016 7:41:07 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: dp0622

Thanks...and I’ll pray for your continuing health improvement.


27 posted on 04/07/2016 7:43:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: AndyJackson

Please understand that I am both being direct with my thoughts on the matter as well as playing devil’s advocate.

The high price on the pill is set to what the seller believes the market will bear. In this case, the market is distorted because two of the three sources of buyer money are “socialized” - that is, they purchase on behalf of an individual using money from many individuals. The three sources are government plans, insurance plans, and individuals who foot the bill from their own pocket.

The market distortion is not caused by the seller (at least, not directly - lobbying complicates that judgment).

Further, if the market were not distorted, as with only being able to charge a fraction of the distorted market value, then the decision to create the product being sold may well have come out differently. The pharmaceutical company may well have chosen to not pursue approval of the drug, and therefore the drug may never have been marketed to begin with.

Finally, the drug companies cannot afford to only market successfully developed drugs for a price that only covers the development of that successful drug. Basic research and development is more than a crap shoot, but often not much more. One uses the accumulated knowledge of pharmaceuticals to decide on a course of investigation, but there are no guarantees of success. If the company has to absorb the cost of every failed attempt to develop a new drug, then the company quickly goes out of business for lack of revenue.

I can think of no clear examples where the government becoming involved directly in a marketplace has not distorted the market to inflate the prices. It worries me that more government intervention is so often floated as the solution or cure for government intervention caused issues.


28 posted on 04/07/2016 7:46:41 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: Kaslin

“What they fail to realize, however, is that in their attempt to improve access to life-saving medications like Xtandi they are actually threatening the future of innovative medicine.”

They know exactly what they’re doing.

L


29 posted on 04/07/2016 7:49:20 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“While the drug companies may be entitled to $50.00 per pill they are NOT entitled to $750.00 per pill.”

How very fascist. What’s next? Want to tell me what wage I’m “entitled” to?

L


30 posted on 04/07/2016 7:51:26 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: RWGinger; baltimorepoet

Wow. Bet you’re a lot of fun at a party.


31 posted on 04/07/2016 7:56:10 AM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: subterfuge; RWGinger; baltimorepoet

I don’t go to parties, because I don’t have anything to celebrate.


32 posted on 04/07/2016 8:01:04 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You have an odd idea of property rights.


33 posted on 04/07/2016 8:03:24 AM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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To: Kaslin

Just another example of how socialism does not work because it removes incentives to produce.


34 posted on 04/07/2016 8:09:58 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: Red Badger
Unconstitutional..................

Which is no doubt why the 1996 GOP Candidate for President co-sponsored the enabling legislation.


35 posted on 04/07/2016 8:20:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ctdonath2

Where Bernie SCROOOOOOD up was that he chose a drug that only helps men to use as his test case.

He should have chosen something that is prescribed for female complaints. He would have gotten his wish faster than you can say War on Women.


36 posted on 04/07/2016 8:22:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MortMan

“It worries me that more government intervention is so often floated as the solution or cure for government intervention caused issues.”

To the lovers of big government, the problem is always that there is not a big enough government yet.

Gun control laws don’t work because we need MORE gun control laws. Social programs like welfare have failed because we need MORE welfare, etc. etc.


37 posted on 04/07/2016 8:24:30 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: baltimorepoet

Sorry to hear that B. In the last 5 years I’ve lost an aunt, two younger sisters, my mother and my grandfather. One of the sisters only a couple of weeks ago. I’ll be praying for you. Sadly, many, many people are suffering under Obama’s jackboot.


38 posted on 04/07/2016 8:35:04 AM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: baltimorepoet

BTW, my post 31 was directed at RWGinger, not you.


39 posted on 04/07/2016 8:38:06 AM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You need to come up with a better argument than the breaking dam one.


40 posted on 04/07/2016 8:51:49 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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