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The Republican Establishment is Worse Than Trump
townhall.com ^ | 3/8/16 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/08/2016 3:36:09 AM PST by cotton1706

There are a lot of things I could say about Donald J. Trump, but he isn’t responsible for 95% of the problems the Republican Party has today. Do you want to know who is responsible for most of the problems in the Republican Party? It’s the Republican Establishment.

“But John, there is no Republican Establishment! In fact, I’d like to see somebody actually name some names. Why don’t you name the Republican Establishment! Dare you…”

Okay, just to name a few: Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Bob Dole, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Karl Rove, Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, George Will, Jon Kyl, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Jeb Bush, Peter King and the whole damn NRSC.

Being part of “the establishment” is more than just having power in the Republican Party or alternately being obsequious to the people in power; it’s a contemptuous attitude toward the concerns of grassroots conservatives and Americans in flyover country.

It’s an attitude that says…

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To: 4rcane
I see a win win situation for November. Either we have a massive turn out which Trump win or if Trump lose badly, he take out most the Republicans in congress with him. Republicans need to be punished

Your comment reminds me of the polish joke where the polish guy goes into his bedroom and sees his wife in bed with another guy. He pulls out a revolver and sticks it to his head and as he pulls the trigger he says "Don't laugh, you're next".

21 posted on 03/08/2016 4:29:31 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerThen ous enemy)
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To: cotton1706
"The Republican Establishment is Worse Than Trump"

In many ways, they are.

The question at issue this month is, however, "Is Ted Cruz better than Trump?"

22 posted on 03/08/2016 4:31:15 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (Will Trump's inaugural address be longer than 140 characters??)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Articulated so well, as only a Trumpkin can.


24 posted on 03/08/2016 4:45:48 AM PST by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: joeystoy

Out of curiosity, can you name a NYC Developer that is of the same stature of Trump whom you consider ‘clean’?


25 posted on 03/08/2016 4:47:16 AM PST by austinaero
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To: Gaffer

Really. How has the last eight years worked out for you?

Unless you want a dictatorship, which I am convinced many Trump supporters secretly do, politics in a republic is the art of the possible. We have fully half the country that is so brainwashed, they will vote for anyone with a D after their name, and you want to get rid of the only firebreak we have to slow their advance. Granted, it’s a crappy, unstable firebreak, but, I’d rather have that than nothing and let the fire sweep away the Republic.


26 posted on 03/08/2016 4:56:50 AM PST by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: LurkLongley

Read my post 5. We knew the Democrats would do what they do best. We expected Republicans who we gave majorities in 2012 and historic majorities in 2014 PISSED any chance they had to stop Obama away. They essentially GAVE him anything he wanted. Don’t even try to put this off on being betrayed by Republicans and not liking them is something Democrat. How dare you.

These Republican leaders have shown time and time again they are liars and can’t be trusted.


27 posted on 03/08/2016 5:01:16 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: wardaddy
Cruz is controllable because with a well-chosen judge, he's going to have Natural Born Citizen issues whenever the puppetmasters want to stop him. It might be for the nomination. It might be between then and the election.

Cruz has to know that. Is he thinking that he can appease them enough that they'll let him become President, completely controlled?

I know Cruz supporters are emotionally and financially invested, but you'd think most of them would have pieced it all together by now.

28 posted on 03/08/2016 5:04:27 AM PST by grania
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

There is a rational case for why Ted would be worse than Trump but, unfortunately his supporters have chosen to paint Ted as the conservative messiah. Consequently any question about Ted raised by any Trump supporter (and even a Cruz supporter who wants to be honest about his record) is savaged with a fury which will make the establishment proud.


29 posted on 03/08/2016 5:33:17 AM PST by TheConservativeBanker
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To: austinaero

If you’re suggesting that all NYC developers have to play the political cronyism game, you’re right. Not just in NYC, but everywhere.

Trump is unique. His trail of wreckage includes creditors, engineers, constructors, sub-contractors, employees and many, many more.

I’ve done business with Trump allies and Trump adversaries. None of them have a good word for him. Bondholders in Atlantic City were ruined. Same with the investors in most of his enterprises. His clothing company manufactures their products in China and Mexico. Most of the “Trump” properties in NYC have licensed his name only.

His net worth in 1976 was listed at $300 million. Fortune estimates his current net worth at $2.9 billion. If he had invested his 1976 money in a Fortune 500 index, his net worth would now be close to $8 billion, so his numerous “successes” have only cost him $5 billion. He says he’s worth $11 billion, but we all know how nebulous “value of the brand” is. I was owed money by a company that valued itself at $700 million, but most of that value was listed under “good will.” When they were padlocked, there weren’t enough real assets to pay 5% to creditors.

By contrast, Warren Buffet’s net worth in 1976 was also $300 million. His net worth today is estimated at $40 billion and he’s spent the past decade giving away billions. I’m not a Buffet fan, but he is a genuine business success story.

BTW: I’m about the same age as Trump. My father worked in a sweat shop. My net worth in 1976 was less than $1,500.

It’s now just under $2 million.

Who’s been more successful?


30 posted on 03/08/2016 5:48:30 AM PST by joeystoy
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

I expected no less.


31 posted on 03/08/2016 5:50:43 AM PST by joeystoy
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To: Gaffer

Don’t think for one second that I’m not as P.O.d as anyone by the spinaly challenged leadership of the last few years, and I dare because I am a citizen with eyes to see.

I’m under no illusions about ANY politician, however, I am unwilling to concede that having a rabidly liberal rep would be better than Paul Ryan, and that is the most likely outcome here.

I also find it ironic that the only really conservative Speaker we’ve had since FDR, Newt Gingrich, has been torn to shreds lately because he doesn’t support the Donald. It’s a crazy election season.

Ryan is meeting with both trump and Cruz to formulate a conservative agenda.


32 posted on 03/08/2016 6:08:07 AM PST by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: LurkLongley

Regardless of my preference for candidates and my subsequent votes, I try to divorce myself from the truly evil duplicity the Republican Party and its Congressional Leadership has bestowed on us these last 2 or 3 decades.

As far as I’m concerned, I will not be voting for my Congressman or my Senator who are up for re-election this year. I’m done with them.

They (Democrats AND Republicans) have more than shown themselves to be weasels cut from the same cloth. I’ll have nothing to do with them ever again while I am still on this earth. They’ve been measured, and they have come up wanting on all accounts IMO.


33 posted on 03/08/2016 6:13:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: joeystoy

You forgot to mention the USFL...


34 posted on 03/08/2016 6:20:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gaffer

Your disgust is a badge of honor, but, it was thinking like this that gave us another 4 years of Obummer, and, regardless of how you feel about Mittens, you can’t honestly say that he wouldn’t have been a step up from Obummer.

Baby steps. Remember that almost half the country will pull the D lever no matter what.


35 posted on 03/08/2016 6:23:02 AM PST by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: grania

Cruz folks are very indignant

It’s boiled down to either Trump revolution

Me and you

Largely religious conviction folks and some originalists who adore Cruz

And I’m sure like me that’s the part you like too

Or the establishment who’d rather lose to Hillary than win with Trump

It’s a three way

I like Trumps fight and no nonsense common sense

Cruz whom I used to like a lot more has shown me why I am right to distrust professional politicos even if they seem ok on the surface


36 posted on 03/08/2016 6:24:04 AM PST by wardaddy (Ted Cruz endorser of Rubio is off my Christmas list......both beloved by donor class unlike Trump)
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To: LurkLongley

Frankly, we are too far gone for more baby steps. I’ll have no more of Republican Establishment.


37 posted on 03/08/2016 6:25:18 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Buckeye McFrog

So many disasters, hard to list all of them.


38 posted on 03/08/2016 6:26:32 AM PST by joeystoy
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To: Gaffer

Fine. What’s the plan then?


39 posted on 03/08/2016 6:41:02 AM PST by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: LurkLongley

My plan is no more ‘Republicans’. You can do what you want. I want a termite tent put over the whole city and figuratively it gassed.


40 posted on 03/08/2016 6:42:51 AM PST by Gaffer
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