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Obama Won’t Seek Access to Encrypted User Data
The New York Times ^ | October 10, 2015 | Nicole Perlroth & David E Sanger

Posted on 02/25/2016 9:08:22 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights

CUPERTINO, Calif. - The Obama administration has backed down in its bitter dispute with Silicon Valley over the encryption of data on iPhones and other digital devices, concluding that it is not possible to give American law enforcement and intelligence agencies access to that information without also creating an opening that China, Russia, cybercriminals and terrorists could exploit. With its decision, which angered the F.B.I. and other law enforcement agencies, the administration essentially agreed with Apple, Google, Microsoft and a group of the nation's top cryptographers and computer scientists that millions of Americans would be vulnerable to hacking if technology firms and smartphone manufacturers were required to provide the government with "back doors," or access to their source code and encryption keys.

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To: Sacajaweau
BS....Bill Gates said Apple should open it.

The question is open what? If the request was for Apple to open just the one phone and not give any code to the federales, there would be no controversy! What "big-brother" wants is for Apple to open every phone so that Uncle Sam can operate as a peeping-Tom. If Apple gives in, the evil in Pandora's box will never be contained again! Once again the overreach of government is the real boogie-man. The terrorists have become the tool of big-government so that Big-brother can gain ascendancy over the populace. All your secrets are belong to us!

21 posted on 02/25/2016 9:26:12 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
On first glance this article is a "gotcha" moment for those who agree the government should have access to encrypted devices.

It'll still be fine to get and execute search warrants for TEA party types who insult Obama on Facebook, but we have to draw the line somewhere. Certainly we shouldn't want to have a look at a cellphone used by a mass-murdering terrorist.

22 posted on 02/25/2016 9:26:13 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Truth29

I know. What’s your point?


23 posted on 02/25/2016 9:27:13 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Obama is, gasp, correct on this. I can console myself that he was probably going to lose a lot of Silicon Valley money if he kept dogging Apple about this.


24 posted on 02/25/2016 9:28:09 AM PST by ModelBreaker (')
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I didn’t address you. I posted to comment #2 stating that the article was BS because Gates had agreed that Apple should open the phone. His reported change was just a few days ago.


25 posted on 02/25/2016 9:30:32 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Cementjungle

I have no problems with getting a warrant to search any phone. But the responsibilty is on the owner to comply, not the millions of other people owning an iPhone.

They want a back door. Period. Once they have that back door they will have a veil of secrecy under which to operate. We know how that works out.


26 posted on 02/25/2016 9:32:33 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Truth29

Sorry. Trying to clean up my own mess of hitting post instead of edit and I missed it.


27 posted on 02/25/2016 9:34:19 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

The Democrat Party now runs on Millenial voters and Silicon Valley money. This is not a surprise in the least.


28 posted on 02/25/2016 9:34:33 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Why did no one think that these two people were dangerous before they started shooting in a gun free zone?

Why didn't all those federal and state agencies do their job?

29 posted on 02/25/2016 9:38:18 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Obama says this but his administration is out forcefully saying the opposite.


30 posted on 02/25/2016 9:40:39 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: DiogenesLamp
No. Just pointing out that Obama is using the Courts to go after Apple instead of actively pushing for legislation. Plausible deniability. No one can say he has trampled on our privacy rights.

But we can because we know how he operates. :)

31 posted on 02/25/2016 9:43:15 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

That means he will


33 posted on 02/25/2016 9:44:24 AM PST by Trophy us (And He will rule with the rod of iron)
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To: Sacajaweau

Well, whatever was in post #1, I likely echo it; that was enough to make me cuss.

Oh, were 0bama’s lips moving when he said what he did?

Then you know it is a lie.


34 posted on 02/25/2016 9:46:51 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Atlas has started shrugging.)
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To: bigbob

How? The terrorists supposedly destroyed their personal phones, implying THOSE were the ones that had the info associated with the plans.


35 posted on 02/25/2016 9:49:40 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

If a Fourth Amendment warrant can be evaded by just buying an IPhone we’re doomed anyway.

The Bill of Rights shouldn’t be a joke.


36 posted on 02/25/2016 9:54:40 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Truth29

“This article is from October 2015.”

Bears repeating.


37 posted on 02/25/2016 9:55:59 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Squantos; Travis McGee; Eaker; Lazamataz; Jim Robinson

If it was asking Apple to go into the privacy of its labs and open this one phone and give the data to the government...I would say they need to absolutely do it, and believe Apple would do so under those conditions.

But that is not what was being asked. The FBI wanted software and the tools to be able to do it themselves. This of course would extend beyond the one phone...and so Apple said no.

This, IMHO, should have been worked out with the manufacturer (in this case Apple) before making a public spectacle of it.

In essence, by doing it this way, they have announced to the world that the iPhone is not going to be able to be cracked.

Ahhh...hehehe, but then the OpSec part of me is thinking that maybe they just set a huge Honey Trap for terrorists precisely because they already have the solution worked out to Apple’s satisfaction.

If that is the case (and we will not know it) then my hat’s off to them,.


38 posted on 02/25/2016 9:58:28 AM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: AmericanProudDad

Don’t even own a cell phone. Only because I have no intention of running around the world with a phone stuck in my ear. I have a land line with an answering machine.


39 posted on 02/25/2016 10:01:18 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: AmericanProudDad
Exactly. Remember the 2009 DHS memo about potential domestic terrorists?

Anyone of us could end up on a watch list because we believe in the principles upon which this nation was founded and actually believe the Bill of Rights limits the reach of the government.

How hard would it be to get a search warrant on our phones because we strongly support the 2nd Amendment or any other issue? If the government gets a back door, we will never know that our personal information has become an open book.

40 posted on 02/25/2016 10:03:41 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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