Can We Judge the Christianity of Donald Trump?

Townhall.com ^ | February 20, 2016 | Michael Brown

[Thumper1960]

Defeat can be more instructive than victory.

For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?
Matthew 16:26

You might want to ponder the words of Matthew.

[DoughtyOne]

Ted has proven that as well as I could.

Take care.

[Elyse]

I never said its okay to continue a life of sin. What I’m saying is no one thought the thief on the cross would go to heaven, but in the last minutes of his life he accepted Christ. We can see the sins in a persons life and recognize that sin and call it sin. That is the judgement we can make. The judgement we shouldn’t make is the price they will pay for their sins with God.

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Probably. lol

[TBP]

Even though he brags about his many affairs, some with married women, I’d say no we can’t.

It was extremely inappropriate for the Pope to question Mr. Trump’s faith.

It was equally inappropriate for Mr. Trump to question teh faith of Dr. Carson and of Senator Cruz.

[TBP]

Even though he brags about his many affairs, some with married women, I’d say no we can’t.

It was extremely inappropriate for the Pope to question Mr. Trump’s faith.

It was equally inappropriate for Mr. Trump to question the faith of Dr. Carson and of Senator Cruz.

[lightman]

The Christian faith begins with an acknowledgement of our sin and a profession of faith in our Savior and is then evidenced by a godly life

Contrary to this author and his TULIP Calvinist ilk, Christianity does NOT begin with us, with any mental exercise of learning the "right" doctrine or reciting a "sinner's prayer".

It begins with Christ; His Incarnation, Death, Resurrection, and Ascension.

We receive His gifts in faith and Baptism.

It is NOT about us. Never has been. Never will be.

[lightman]

Ping

[boycott]

I am in agreement that God hates sin but loves the sinner. But we can make judgements as to what people do.

Another area area I disagree or didn’t understand you comment is where you posted, .....
“I also think in our last heartbeat or, possibly even beyond, we have the chance to transform and accept Jesus as our Savior and receive forgiveness for our sins “

Personally, I believe it’s too late to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior after we’ve died died. There is nothing biblical that I know of that says otherwise.

[Elsie]

I’m just wondering...

...when the Saint Madrid fault lets go again; will I be affected badly here in Central Indiana initially; or just by the aftermath?

[Elsie]

Only the arrogant try to judge the beliefs of others. It is also a sin. Not very Christian.

Yeah...

...I just hate it when stuff like this is exposed.

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Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Elsie]

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Pffft!

All I need to do is to fool 51% of them; ONE time!

[Elsie]

There is nothing biblical that I know of that says otherwise.

You just MIGHT want to get rid of your Reader's Digest version of the Bible!!

[boycott]

We can ask for forgivness of our sins after death? We can convert to Christianity after death? Comedy.

If you were right, no one would ever go to hell. That just isn’t Biblical. If you can point out verses that say a person can become Christian after death, please do so.

[boycott]

Also, what does the photo of the pope have to do with this? Can he convert people, after death to Christianity? Again, if you have anything Biblical that says a person can become Christian after physical death, please proceed.

[Elsie]

If you can point out verses that say a person can become Christian after death, please do so.

Catholics pray to Mary all the TIME for her help with those who have died.

Perhaps THEY can answer your questions a LOT better than this poor, deceived (or deceiving) Prot could EVER hpe to!

[boycott]

You posted that I had a Reader’s Digest version of the Bible. I was just asking if you had anything Biblical to support your statements.

http://www.gotquestions.org/praying-for-the-dead.html

[mlizzy]

Interesting question. I just looked up the map for that and seems you are on the border, yes?

[Thumper1960]

Which is worse? Hldebeast or Helen Thomas?

What is seen cannot be unseen.......

[Thumper1960]

Many years ago, I did work on heating and cooling systems at a convent called the sisters of the perpetual rosary. One of the folks who worked there said they prayed for the living and the dead. I just know that the Mother Superior was NOT a woman *I* would have ever made disagreeable.