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Bush Lied About WMDs? Trump's Outrageous Accusation - ludicrous left-wing canard.
The American Spectator ^ | February 15, 2016 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 02/15/2016 1:35:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: MarvinStinson

Well in hindsight only a fool would undertake the same mission. Containment would have been better. I wonder what the generals really thought.


141 posted on 02/16/2016 5:09:40 AM PST by toddausauras (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: MarvinStinson

Well is it a documented objective truth? Did Bush not sign the U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement? Did that agreement not set the time line for withdrawal of US combat forces? Nobody put a gun to Bush’s head.


142 posted on 02/16/2016 5:12:06 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb; MarvinStinson

Many government policies [in many departments and agencies] transitioned from Bush’s administration to Obama’s administration and were left in place regardless of real-time conditions, policies that should have and would have been changed. If it suited Obama to let things “die on the vine” and attributed it to Bush, all the better.


143 posted on 02/16/2016 5:21:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jpsb

It’s Bush’s fault, huh?

WHERE have I heard that before?

From Obama—constantly—over the past 7 years.


144 posted on 02/16/2016 5:24:01 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

I just go with objective documented truth. Evidently you can’t handle the truth.


145 posted on 02/16/2016 5:32:30 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bush did not have to sign that agreement! Nobody forced him to sign it. Once he signed it the deal was done. Bush was a fool.


146 posted on 02/16/2016 5:35:03 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: toddausauras

The neocons at the Bush White House thought they could remake Iraq into a Jefferson Republic on the cheap. Never ever trust a neocon and oh btw the only not neocon candidate is Trump.


147 posted on 02/16/2016 5:38:46 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

You go with the Obama version of “the truth.”


148 posted on 02/16/2016 6:00:34 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: jpsb
The neocons at the Bush White House thought they could remake Iraq into a Jefferson Republic on the cheap.

It must have been the "neocons" in the Obama White House who thought they could bring "democracy" to Libya.

149 posted on 02/16/2016 6:03:16 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

There is objective documented truth, I go with that. Bush signed the Status of Forces Agreement. It was a very foolish thing for him to do. But Bush was very good at doing foolish things.


150 posted on 02/16/2016 6:04:35 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: MarvinStinson

Yes it was, Hillary is a neocon too.


151 posted on 02/16/2016 6:05:40 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Yosemitest

Thank you for your service. Air Traffic Controller must be
the hardest job anyone can do. - My husband was in the Air
Force back in the early sixties; was stationed for a year on
the border of Turkey/Russia in SAC.


152 posted on 02/16/2016 6:13:30 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It was President Bush that said there were no WMDs in Iraq.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs


153 posted on 02/16/2016 6:15:08 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Gene Eric

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” President Clinton , Feb. 4, 1998.

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” President Clinton , Feb. 17, 1998.

“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face .” Madeline Albright , Feb 18, 1998.

” He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983 .” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” Madeline Albright , Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

“There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeing and developing weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force “ if necessary “ to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have always s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do.” Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. “[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ... Sen. John F. Kerry (D, M


154 posted on 02/16/2016 6:18:52 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Enlightened1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Report_on_Pre-war_Intelligence_on_Iraq#Background


155 posted on 02/16/2016 9:03:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I site you President Bush and you site me Wikipedia..... Priceless.

Do you even know what Wiki means? It means edit. Therefore, anyone can edit it what you sent. Wikipedia is a good start, but should not be relied as fact. Even Wikipedia says that.

In any event you are arguing with President Bush.... Maybe you should send him the intel you have on Wikipedia? I’m sure it’s better than anything He had as President of the United States...... (Sarcasm off).

You Walker supporters kill me.


156 posted on 02/16/2016 10:51:20 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Twinkie
SAC's was not an easy Command to work for.
He has my sympathies.
157 posted on 02/16/2016 6:17:51 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

He never complained about it; but he has always been one to
keep a stiff upper lip. He was with TUSLOGDet. whatever
that means. Came out a Staff Sergeant. Still don’t know
what he did over there.


158 posted on 02/16/2016 6:41:57 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: MarvinStinson

Thank you for the references. Bookmarked.

And a belated welcome to FR!


159 posted on 02/16/2016 9:22:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Twinkie
The United States Logistics Group Detachment (TUSLOGDet) is what it stands for.
The move a lot of equipment and personnel, which means he controlled a lot of very large aircraft. Since you said "he was the border of Turkey/Russia in SAC", and I can only guess whether he worked in the radar unit or in the tower, I'd guess he did normal air traffic control duties.
160 posted on 02/16/2016 10:44:04 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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