Posted on 02/12/2016 4:57:39 AM PST by Nextrush
"DAVID FRY: I'm really confused right now....You guys I don't deserve any of my freedom. GAVIN SEIM David, people love you, they don't want you to do this...."
Part of the livestream 2/11/2016 from Gavin Seim for the peaceful surrender of the final four in Oregon.
It was rough going when the time came for David Fry to leave the improvised position known as "Camp Finicum" in the parking lot of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge yesterday. He was concerned about going to prison, losing his freedom, he was suicidal.
Before him, three others had walked out and surrendered to the FBI in the presence of Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore and Rev. Franklin Graham. (Jeff Banta, Sean Anderson, Sandy Anderson)
But for David Fry, who has been trashed in the media for his drug issues with law enforcement in the past and his crazy internet posts, it was no surprise that he was in difficulty.
Many would want to discredit the cause that David was at the refuge for (freedom for the Hammonds, freedom for farmers and ranchers to use the land) because of his 'issues' but my read of history reminds me of the crazy people around leaders who are honored by our society.
Bayard Rustin, a Communist who was arrested for cruising a men's room and was gay was accepted by Dr. Martin Luther King as a helper.
I pray for peace and serenity in David's life, sanity and sobriety. God Bless David Fry, I wish him the best.
William Fry, his father, texted "OregonLive": "We are all relieved our prayers were answered". Indeed they were.
Meanwhile, a wave of arrests away from the refuge related to the occupation that began January 2nd.
There were nine new indictments in the last 24 hours or so with seven arrests and two more planned. This is on top of the 16 already arrested in the 'occupation'.
Among those arrested, Blaine Cooper, who had left the refuge in a hurry when others were arrested and LaVoy Finicum killed on January 26th.
The names of the last two are not revealed because they haven't been arrested yet.
There's a lot of fear in the wake of these arrests and questions about 'who's next'.
I checked the FBI news release link. Nothing new yet on arrests.
Harney County officials issued a carefully worded statement late yesterday acknowledging land use issues in the county and calling for legal means to be used in the case of the Hammond's. Sheriff Dave Ward urged people in the country to talk with each other directly about issues.
In an interview with Oregon Public Broadcasting, Harney County Judge Stephen Grasty does want to give 'the Bundy's' any credit for what's being talked about in the county now and any policy changes in the future. "I think their strategy was completely wrong" Grasty says.
But frankly, the truth is that if Ammon Bundy and his small band had not shown up at the wildlife refuge right or wrong, renamed it the Harney County Resource Center, made improvements to the roads there, fixed some other things up and begun a program of education in the county and beyond, yesterday's statement would never have been made and changes hinted at by Harney County officials.
What the future holds, we do not know...but actions ultimately speak louder than words.
One sword hanging over Harney County are plans to create a 'national monument' in the county that would put 400 ranchers out of business. A lame duck President Obama could make a decision in the last 11 months of his presidency on that matter.
More vanity threads posted as News?
Link for FBI Alert Oregon.
http://www.flashalert.net/id/FBIOregon
Link for Gavin Seim’s wrapup on recent events last night on You Tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKQeLJQZQpk
File a complaint with the FBI unless you already work for them. My posts really work you up.
Let me play FBI and you can be the ‘evil militia occupier’ “Keep your hands away from the keyboard”.
If there were a law against posting vanity threads as news, you would already be doing time.
Plus they are probably the two that are FBI agents.
Isn’t it News/Activism?
The infiltrator/plant, or at least the major one, was very easy to identify here if you have been a long time observer of FBI tactics. They’ve elevated their game to near perfection. If it weren’t for the sheer diabolic evil that has evolved in our government offices; I would say well and masterfully done.
I’d be impressed if I didn’t have so much to lose in the game.
NOW is the time for any who are NOT slave to the Oppressors to educate themselves and others in the History of the Dept. of the Interior —and the BLM —and the principles
these peaceful protesters were motivated to defend.That has been deliberately ignored as the Government and their lapdogs wanted this to be about “anti- Government” men with guns at a wildlife refuge. Ignoring the fact that the ONLY siege engine— the Only ones who denied the people any access—were the men with assault weapons and dressed in Combat uniform dress -who manned NAZI style checkpoints -and abused the people—and pushed
a white SUV into a kill Zone Ambush where they murdered an unarmed man who hands were up. until he was shot. Who shot him seven times and as he lay dying made obscene gestures — all because some evil woman said
these were NOT Patriots—but domestic Terrorists. Who invoked Terror— I suggest the armed men in black —not
the Patriots. Who killed someone who was NOT armed ? Oh yes that was the FBI—or maybe the OSP. Who treated those seeking a negotiated—and peaceful settlement with such contemptuous disrespect— Oh yes that would again be the FBI— and Government agents that besieged the community.Time to educate yourself America— or die an unarmed slave.
You are correct and here is a good article that explains a small part of what these ranch families have been through.
Up Front Spindled & Mutilated
By C.J. Hadley
Editor, Range Magazine
Hage. Gardner. Dann. Yowell. Colvin. Bundy. Tomera. Filippini. Borba. Hammond. Good hadleyranchers all, cowboys and Indians who had private property rights on federal land in the American West. All have been abused by federal agents of the Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Forest Service, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service or the National Park Service. Some cattle have been taken at gunpoint, some ranch families have been destroyed, and the abuse was not earned.
The Hages—who have historic grazing preferences and property rights dating back to the 1860s in central Nevada—have been defending themselves against the government since 1979, and in court (Hage v. United States) since 1991. There have been major decisions in their favor. Judge Loren A. Smith, of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims in Washington, D.C., ruled in 2010 that the government owed the Hages $14 million (including interest) under the “takings clause†of the 5th Amendment. Three members of the family have died since the case started and when it’s time to pay up, the Department of Justice brings out a new crop of highly paid lawyers to harass the Hages again. One Forest Service ranger said in the early ’90s: “Hage can’t win. We have more money and more lawyers.†Paid for by honest taxpayers! (Go to rangemagazine.com and click on Special Info/Hage at the bottom of the Home Page.)
In a recent trespass case brought by BLM and FS against the Hages, Federal District Court Judge Robert C. Jones ruled in favor of the family, noting that two agencies of the federal government entered into a “literal, intentional conspiracy to deprive the Hages not only of their permits but also their vested water rights. This behavior shocks the conscience of the Court.†DOJ appealed and the 9th Circuit overruled Judge Jones on Jan. 15, 2016. Next step: the Supreme Court.
But it isn’t just Hage. The Bundys in Bunkerville, Nev., were the last family standing after federal agents used the “endangered†desert tortoise to pressure 50 Clark County ranch families off their ranges. Cliven Bundy’s forebears had been running cattle on that southern desert since the 1800s and in 1991 he refused to sign a BLM grazing permit that would have destroyed his livelihood. Bundy was willing to pay fees but not commit ranch suicide. Sadly, BLM would not accept his fees without a signed permit and since that time BLM has euthanized excess desert tortoises.
But don’t forget the Hammonds in Oregon. Decades of relentless harassment by federal agents have put Dwight Hammond, 74, and son Steven, 46, in federal prison for five years each for “domestic terrorism.†Their crime? A controlled burn to improve the resource and a backburn to save their ranch and range from a lightning fire. While the Hammonds accidentally burned about 140 acres of public land in both fires and damaged nothing, federal agents burned millions of acres, destroyed homes, barns, fences and range, and killed livestock, horses and wildlife, with no reprimand or jail time.
BLM and FWS want the Hammond Ranch. The agencies have blocked the family’s stock waters and access roads to their high-country grazing land, canceled their legal grazing permits, and seem determined to destroy ranch and family so that they can add that private land to the 187,000-acre Malheur National Wildlife Refuge (see map). Besides being locked up in California, the Hammonds had to pay $400,000 by Dec. 31, 2015, for destroying federal land and were forced to give first option on their ranch to the BLM—the agency working to destroy them.
At press time, Bundy sons, Ammon and Ryan, with armed friends, were protesting the Hammonds’ sentence, holed up in the refuge visitor center “until the Hammonds are set free.†Meanwhile, President Obama has released 195,900 felons early (some guilty of homicide, rape and kidnapping) while two good ranchers are languishing in prison.
CONTACT: C.J. Hadley, Editor, RANGE magazine,
P.O. Box 639, Carson City, NV 89702 1-775-884-2200 1-800-RANGE-4-U
edit@rangemagazine.com www.rangemagazine.com
Not when made from a legitimate source.
Funny how that works.
How do you get in as #2 on all these threads?
You’re quick.
BLM was created in 1947 by merging the Grazing Service with the General Land Office. That all changed with Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976, which defines how all the federal lands are managed.
Other Acts of Congress also come into play, for example: the Wilderness Act, the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act and the Endangered Species Act, National Environmental Policy Act, to name a few.
On one hand, since passage of FLPMA, the number of grazing leases has been reduced, the number of acres being grazed has been reduced, and federal oversight of grazing has increased.
OTOH, since passage of FLPMA, there are a lot more recreational sites, coal and natural gas leases, wilderness areas and wilderness study areas, & archeological sites, to name a few.
I would like to be a juror on one of those cases. I hope and pray that Oregon has enough patriots to stop any political prosecutions from leading to conviction. [I’m not saying they’re all innocent, but I am suspicious of many or perhaps most of the charges.]
If Walter Cronkite posted a ‘vanity’ as ‘news’ would we be having this problem?
That asked, I find that Mr. Nextrush’s posts have been the most informative and up to date on the Oregon situation in my web searching.
He didn’t pull the information out of his backside.
He got it from some source or sources.
Yet he lists himself as the source.
Seems a bit self-serving to me, as well as dishonest.
I don’t know the whole truth, I look at David Fry as a ‘drunk’ more than an FBI guy.
There was a lot of talk among Fry and others like Gavin Seim about someone who came to the refuge, made videos and asked everyone for their signature on a ‘talent release form’.
And then there’s the driver of the vehicle Ammon Bundy was in when he was arrested, Mark McConnell. The one who talked about what he couldn’t see, LaVoy Finicum’s killing, claiming LaVoy ‘charged’ at law enforcement.
He posts vanity threads claiming them to be "News"?
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